Still guys, star player gets suspended due to breaking team rules regarding practices... let's not throw too many stones from inside the glass house here...
Star player? Looking at the stats scratching Kane is like us scratching Joe Colborne.
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I'm curious as to why? What will happen? Most posters here seemed disappointed in Bouma, Monahan, and Gaudreau so I'm not sure the idiom even fits in this case.
... Regarding ragging on Kane so hard when our guys did the same thing? Seems to suit the topic and certain posters opinions perfectly IMO.
Star player? Looking at the stats scratching Kane is like us scratching Joe Colborne.
Ouch. But actually hasn't Colborne been better than Kane the last few games? Heh.
Kane has elite skill, just a kid finding his way though. Look at Ovechkin a few years ago. People had him written off shortly after the "hot stick" celebration. He sure has grown up.
Perhaps Kane will too and turn into one helluva a player and even perhaps a leader someday.
But honestly, situations like this concern me for the player. I hope Kane doesn't go through the next few years acting like a punk and feeling untouchable. That's when his health and safety become a concern. Hopefully he learns before its too late..
24 is still very much a kid... There aren't many 24 year olds out there that actually have their shi* together.
How do you feel about Johnny, Money and Lance? Gaudreau is 22 and is about to complete his degree. He did the same thing.
Are you saying Gaudreau needs to grow the hell up too?
Bouma 25. What you say?
They're young guys and very much kids still who play a game for a living..
Take it easy.. They'll be just fine in life, I'm sure.
Kane has also likely contributed more to society in volunteer hours, charitable donations and much more than many of us ever will in life..
So who's head is really backwards and needs to grow the hell up?
I have nothing against you loving Kane and sure a lot of young guys will make dumb mistakes. I have nothing against a guy sleeping in and making a "mistake". With that being said, the reason I hold him to a different standard is because the three guys on the Flames have never had this type of negativity so it would seem more likely they got hammered, had trouble waking up, and was being kids. Kane is also still young I give him that, but I don't feel like Kane is an idiot only because he's young, I think he's an idiot because he thinks he's a different standard than everyone else. Kanes actions have been well documented and he hasn't really shown any remorse in a lot of his antics.
He seems to have all the tools to be one, but has yet (IMO) full filled that potential.
Maybe not a star but certainly not a scrub either. He's fast, has a great shot, generates chances, and is a strong physical player. And is putting pucks in the net at a near-30 goal pace. At worst, a solid second line player with first line potential.
Maybe not a star but certainly not a scrub either. He's fast, has a great shot, generates chances, and is a strong physical player. At worst, a solid second line player with first line potential.
That I can maybe get behind, but your use of "star player" was off.
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Ouch. But actually hasn't Colborne been better than Kane the last few games? Heh.
Kane has elite skill, just a kid finding his way though. Look at Ovechkin a few years ago. People had him written off shortly after the "hot stick" celebration. He sure has grown up.
Perhaps Kane will too and turn into one helluva a player and even perhaps a leader someday.
But honestly, situations like this concern me for the player. I hope Kane doesn't go through the next few years acting like a punk and feeling untouchable. That's when his health and safety become a concern. Hopefully he learns before its too late..
Finding his way all the way to Russia maybe.
He is in his 5th full season as a pro, and its blatently clear he doesn't give a crap about anything but himself......either optically or actually.
His history, not his age, suggest as much. This is hardly his first transgression.
Josh Ho Sang is another one just like Kane in that its not about making "a" mistake, it's about learning from them and not repeating immature or wreckless behaviour that is well documented and not a one off.
I have nothing against you loving Kane and sure a lot of young guys will make dumb mistakes. I have nothing against a guy sleeping in and making a "mistake". With that being said, the reason I hold him to a different standard is because the three guys on the Flames have never had this type of negativity so it would seem more likely they got hammered, had trouble waking up, and was being kids. Kane is also still young I give him that, but I don't feel like Kane is an idiot only because he's young, I think he's an idiot because he thinks he's a different standard than everyone else. Kanes actions have been well documented and he hasn't really shown any remorse in a lot of his antics.
I'm not a fan of Kane. But I'm not going to call the guy an idiot for a mistake that many of us have made.
I'm also gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and consider him likely intelligent.
Lastly, at that age, most guys think they're hot shi*. I sure did.. I eventually got my priorities straight and grew up.
Hopefully Kane does the same. Good chat tho. But we're just gonna spin our wheels so guess we can agree to disagree?
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Maybe not a star but certainly not a scrub either. He's fast, has a great shot, generates chances, and is a strong physical player. And is putting pucks in the net at a near-30 goal pace. At worst, a solid second line player with first line potential.
Kane isn't a first line player. He's on track for nearly 30 but he just had a scoring streak. Let's see if this holds up. He's 24 and a 30 goal scorer but once in his career.
I'm not a fan of Kane. But I'm not going to call the guy an idiot for a mistake that many of us have made.
I'm also gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and consider him likely intelligent.
Lastly, at that age, most guys think they're hot shi*. I sure did.. I eventually got my priorities straight and grew up.
Hopefully Kane does the same. Good chat tho. But we're just gonna spin our wheels so guess we can agree to disagree?
I'm sorry, but we're not talking about a 24 year old working in an entry level type of job in a office of shoe factory. He's being paid $6 million bucks a year to be a professional, there's a vast difference, he's in a job in the public limelight where he's being paid massive amounts of money. I'm sorry but for the next 10 or 15 years, where he's being paid an enormous amount of money the expectations are a bit higher.
You can throw the Johnny Sean Lance thing at me, and that's great because its the same thing. For 6 million bucks a year you make the practices and you make the games, and you act like a professional.
And the he's young thing doesn't cut it to me, not for that amount of money, if he doesn't like the life or the rules then he shouldn't sign his contract.
The kid is rapidly burning that bridge where he goes from a 6 million dollar player to someone that NHL teams sign to training camp try outs because he's not good for the team, and he's not worth the guaranteed salary without proof, and he's a project.
And that will be his fault. Young or not.
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I'm sorry, but we're not talking about a 24 year old working in an entry level type of job in a office of shoe factory. He's being paid $6 million bucks a year to be a professional, there's a vast difference, he's in a job in the public limelight where he's being paid massive amounts of money. I'm sorry but for the next 10 or 15 years, where he's being paid an enormous amount of money the expectations are a bit higher.
You can throw the Johnny Sean Lance thing at me, and that's great because its the same thing. For 6 million bucks a year you make the practices and you make the games, and you act like a professional.
And the he's young thing doesn't cut it to me, not for that amount of money, if he doesn't like the life or the rules then he shouldn't sign his contract.
The kid is rapidly burning that bridge where he goes from a 6 million dollar player to someone that NHL teams sign to training camp try outs because he's not good for the team, and he's not worth the guaranteed salary without proof, and he's a project.
I usually tend to tolerate youthful indiscretion as I was not a wise person when I was young. But one thing I never did at any age, was miss work due to partying. Even back when I was working thankless jobs for minimum wage. Letting people down when you shirk your duties is a terrible feeling. It's shameful.
I wasn't thrilled about Gaudreau, Monahan and Bouma recently either, but they did seem genuinely sorry (and they did technically show up to work). Given what we know about Kane, I doubt he really cares.
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Still guys, star player gets suspended due to breaking team rules regarding practices... let's not throw too many stones from inside the glass house here...
