Tesla Car Opening Dealership in Chinook

[NuclearFart]

Originally Posted by speede5

The only thing odd about a Tesla in MJ is there is Calgary would be your closest dealer, but there are some in Saskatoon and Regina, which are even further. One recently was totalled in sk and went through salvage with a 35k reserve.

For a small town we have our fair share of high end cars.

It's super easy to get a Tesla anywhere in the world so you don't really need a dealership unless you want to test drive. You place your order online and then they'll deliver it on a truck bed right to your driveway .

Any mechanical issues and they fly out one of their "rangers" to your house.

Also, if anyone is currently sitting on the fence to buy, the Tesla prices are going to increase 4-5% at the end of December.

[VladtheImpaler]

Is the Tesla SUV available yet?

[NuclearFart]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Is the Tesla SUV available yet?

They're a bit cryptic about the true ETA of the model X when you ask them. It does sound like you can order it now and legitimately expect it sometime in 2016.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by NuclearFart

They're a bit cryptic about the true ETA of the model X when you ask them. It does sound like you can order it now and legitimately expect it sometime in 2016.

Hmmm, that's when I need it. How much for this unicorn?

[Northendzone]

Originally Posted by NuclearFart

Any mechanical issues and they fly out one of their "rangers" to your house.

Also, if anyone is currently sitting on the fence to buy, the Tesla prices are going to increase 4-5% at the end of December.

i was told at the chinook store that there is some type of 80 km radius from the dealer with respect to providing a technician - i did not press for a lot of details, because i am mostly happy with driving my 2009 V8 sport ute (it is paid for).

i am curious though, i thought these vechiles were completely electic, but yet they have a mileage of 2.3l/100k - what does it use the gas for?

an can you plug these bad boys into a standard 110v outlet in your garage, or is something mroe required

[NuclearFart]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Hmmm, that's when I need it. How much for this unicorn?

I don't know off hand, but I think the top line P90D is ball park ~150,000$. The guy I've been directly dealing with is the owner/advisor of the Calgary dealership, Chris Bishop. I'd email him to get the up to date info and he can also hook you up with an immediate testdrive.

CBishop@teslamotors.com

Also, if you're a physician you can get 2000$ off.

[NuclearFart]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

i was told at the chinook store that there is some type of 80 km radius from the dealer with respect to providing a technician - i did not press for a lot of details, because i am mostly happy with driving my 2009 V8 sport ute (it is paid for).

i am curious though, i thought these vechiles were completely electic, but yet they have a mileage of 2.3l/100k - what does it use the gas for?

an can you plug these bad boys into a standard 110v outlet in your garage, or is something mroe required

I think the radius thing is what they would like, but I was told they'd fly a ranger in regardless of where you are if truly needed. If the car isn't working and you can't drive it, there isn't much choice.

The car certainly has no need of gas, I don't know what that mileage thing is about. Maybe some sort of equivalency rating?

You can use the 110v outlet, but it takes forever to charge. You'll want to install a 220v outlet in your garage.

[Tyler]

Brilliant idea - develop an EV charging drone fleet that can rapidly charge a vehicle that is too far away from a charging station. Can be ordered via your phone and can help with range anxiety and missing a station.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

2.3L/100km? Sorry for my ignorance, but what do you mean?

That's what is on the windows sticker. Because the S burns no fuel in the car they calculate how much energy is required to charge/drive the car and post it in the same familiar format used for a petrol burner.

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Is the Tesla SUV available yet?

There is a long waiting list, years last time I checked.

[northcrunk]

Seems Tesla has replaced the BMW as the car of choice for dick head drivers. Seen 2, cut off by 2 driving over the speed limit weaving in and out of traffic.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

i am curious though, i thought these vechiles were completely electic, but yet they have a mileage of 2.3l/100k - what does it use the gas for?

an can you plug these bad boys into a standard 110v outlet in your garage, or is something mroe required

The "mileage" on the window stickers - is fuel efficiency equivalent. Essentially, A standard had be made made to evaluate electric cars agaisnt fuel burners. In the US, I think it shows as MPGe (Miles per Gallon equivalent).

You can plug it in to a standard 110 plug, but it takes something like 40 hours to fully charge a car from that small amount of power.

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Hmmm, that's when I need it. How much for this unicorn?

80-140K USD, though at the moment there's a backlog of 20K-30K as they started taking orders in 2012 but have only delivered a few dozen so far to select individuals. Tesla still hasn't delivered a single X to individuals who put down a $40K reservation while only some of the normal orders with a $2500 reservation have been invited to configure their X.

A new order probably won't get it until 2017, or later.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

Seems Tesla has replaced the BMW as the car of choice for dick head drivers. Seen 2, cut off by 2 driving over the speed limit weaving in and out of traffic.

I would say more augmented, as opposed to replaced...

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by NuclearFart

Any mechanical issues and they fly out one of their "rangers" to your house.

But it's not cheap, starting at $100 and going up to $3/mile depending on the service center.

[puffnstuff]

Originally Posted by Tyler

Brilliant idea - develop an EV charging drone fleet that can rapidly charge a vehicle that is too far away from a charging station. Can be ordered via your phone and can help with range anxiety and missing a station.

That sounds...Uber-ish. Probably wont be allowed in Calgary.

[NuclearFart]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

I would say more augmented, as opposed to replaced...

It's hard to tell from his spelling, but I think he means drivers with BIG dicks.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Tyler

Brilliant idea - develop an EV charging drone fleet that can rapidly charge a vehicle that is too far away from a charging station. Can be ordered via your phone and can help with range anxiety and missing a station.

Considering the size of the batteries and/or wiring required to charge a car, the "drone" would be a helicopter.

[Matata]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

2 questions as I know you're quite knowledgeable here:

1. You've factored in line loss with electricity, but shouldn't there also be loss with combustion? The joules in gasoline don't all go to power do they?

2. Even with full coal power an EV will get similar carbon emissions to an efficient combustion engine. Still a win, no?

Math attack:

Combustion efficiency, EV = (Coal Plant combustion efficiency)*(Line losses)*(engine efficiency)
Combustion efficiency, EV = (95%)*(50%)*(95%) = 45%

I figure 95% efficiency for the coal plant and car engine is close enough for estimates.

Combustion efficiency, typical car = 85% (again, just a reasonable guess)

Factor in that coal burns dirtier than gasoline and the Tesla comes out as a pretty nasty piece of work for emissions. The key difference being that you have several steps between combustion and the application of useful energy, whereas it is a one step process in a combustion engine. There are a ton of factors I haven't considered in my calculations (cost of transporting fuel might shake things up a bit), but I can't envision the Tesla's being a low emission vehicle in Alberta.

[Fuzz]

Typical car engine efficiency is about 20%...

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by Matata

Math attack:

Combustion efficiency, EV = (Coal Plant combustion efficiency)*(Line losses)*(engine efficiency)
Combustion efficiency, EV = (95%)*(50%)*(95%) = 45%

Coal plant is typically 33% efficient at converting heat to electricity; line losses should be <10% (in the USA as an example total transmission losses are quoted at around 7%). There is also battery charging losses which can range from a few percent with high voltage chargers to 15+% at 110v.