08-06-2015, 10:05 AM
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#41
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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan
Heard this on Sirius NHL radio this morning. One of the hosts could only say that he was impressed that Kane had a home in Germany. What a cool place to spend the offseason. (there was no mention of rape at this point mind you).
It kills me that anyone would jump to the conclusion that Hamburg referred to the city in Germany and not the possibility that it is a town near Buffalo, NY. You know, since he had just said that police in New York were investigating Kane.....
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I listen to that channel a lot. Only way to get my hockey fix in the car down here. Who said that? Some of those guys don't strike me as the sharpest tools..
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08-06-2015, 10:07 AM
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#42
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
I listen to that channel a lot. Only way to get my hockey fix in the car down here. Who said that? Some of those guys don't strike me as the sharpest tools..
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There is a Hamburg in NY and PA, as it is NY police investigation, it is safe to assume this occurred in Hamburg, NY.
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08-06-2015, 10:08 AM
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#43
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
The flip side is targeting of rich guys because they are rich. Doug Gilmour and Kobe Bryant being two examples I can think of. If this goes beyond a police investigation, that's probably going to be what this boils down to. "Rich, entitled guy sexually assaults woman" vs. "golddigger looking for money."
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This. I agree with Enoch Root, theres so many variables in play when this kind of thing happens it really ought to be standard procedure to just keep it quiet until theres some sort of certainty because someone is going to get vilified.
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08-06-2015, 10:12 AM
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#44
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
It is so wrong, IMO, to announce the charges publicly. If he is convicted, then by all means, crucify him. But it is completely unfair to have someone's reputation slaughtered publicly, on allegations alone.
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What would you do, ban the public (incl media) from any courtroom where such allegations are tried before judge and jury?
It is a vexing problem for sure, especially in cases of alleged sexual assault, but witholding from the public any information about a case until a verdict is rendered would be pretty much impossible imho. And not in the public interest. Justice must be seen.
BUT: No way should word of an investigation leak, unless and until charges are laid. This one stinks. Unfair to Kane.
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08-06-2015, 10:13 AM
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#45
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Uncle Chester
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Originally Posted by nik-
Seeing as "if true" was the qualifier, perhaps you can sort it out.
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Thanks for clarifying nik. It seems weird to me to have the "if true" part. That's all I was saying.
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08-06-2015, 10:23 AM
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#46
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Lifetime Suspension
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Last edited by Jets4Life; 08-06-2015 at 10:30 AM.
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08-06-2015, 10:25 AM
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#47
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Neither condemning or defending Kane here...there just is no data in these stories, except there is an "allegation"...it is premature to rush to judgment.
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08-06-2015, 10:26 AM
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#48
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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updated story:
http://www.buffalonews.com/city-regi...ation-20150806
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Patrick Kane, the star player of the Chicago Blackhawks who grew up in South Buffalo, is the target of a rape investigation by Hamburg police for an incident that occurred over the last weekend, two law enforcement sources have told The Buffalo News.
A local woman has accused Kane of a sexual assault, the sources said.
The law enforcement sources said that the woman went to a hospital where a rape kit was performed.
Kane, 26, has a home in Hamburg. He has not been charged with any crime.
On Wednesday, both Hamburg Police Chief Gregory G. Wickett and the Erie County District Attorney Frank A. Sedita III said they could neither confirm nor deny the existence of the investigation.
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08-06-2015, 10:27 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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latest update from the buffalo news doesn't sound like statutory rape
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08-06-2015, 10:27 AM
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#50
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Originally Posted by Jets4Life
I'm reading more reports, that it is statutory rape. It is still obviously not right, but not as severe as actual rape.
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First order of business should always be:
I need to see your ID please
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08-06-2015, 10:29 AM
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#51
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Jets4Life
I'm reading more reports, that it is statutory rape. It is still obviously not right, but not as severe as actual rape.
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First, link please?
Second, I'm not sure an accusation of a 26-year-old man having sex with an underage girl makes it all that much better.
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08-06-2015, 10:32 AM
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#52
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
First, link please?
Second, I'm not sure an accusation of a 26-year-old man having sex with an underage girl makes it all that much better.
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https://twitter.com/dan_bemstein/sta...99808864317443
Not sure how to embed tweets on CP.
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08-06-2015, 10:33 AM
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#53
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Jets4Life
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Apparently it's a fake twitter account.
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08-06-2015, 10:35 AM
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#54
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Cole436
Apparently it's a fake twitter account.
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18 tweets, 4 followers.
Sorry Jets4Life... you were just a little too credulous there.
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08-06-2015, 10:36 AM
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#55
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Originally Posted by Jets4Life
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4 followers?
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08-06-2015, 10:40 AM
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#56
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
18 tweets, 4 followers.
Sorry Jets4Life... you were just a little too credulous there.
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My bad.
It's now becoming clear it is a rape investigation. I pray that he did not do this.
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08-06-2015, 10:43 AM
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#57
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
First, link please?
Second, I'm not sure an accusation of a 26-year-old man having sex with an underage girl makes it all that much better.
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I really don't know why I'm even getting into this, but it's a lot less scummy (but still kinda scummy) than actual rape. Especially considering underage people get into bars and lie about their age all the time. It can be really hard to tell how old someone is.
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08-06-2015, 10:43 AM
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#58
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Jeez. Withholding my judgement until this is resolved. I'll echo that, if true, I hope he sees jail time, if not, I hope she does.
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08-06-2015, 10:44 AM
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#59
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I fully admit I have zero details but I find it hard to believe Kane would rape a girl. He might be a bit of a dick but this seems a bit extreme. A girl who had her feelings hurt somehow in the situation or looking for a pay day seems more plausible but I guess you never know.
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08-06-2015, 10:48 AM
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#60
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Hackey
I fully admit I have zero details but I find it hard to believe Kane would rape a girl. He might be a bit of a dick but this seems a bit extreme. A girl who had her feelings hurt somehow in the situation or looking for a pay day seems more plausible but I guess you never know.
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For me, I just have a hard time understanding why any top athlete or celebrity would NEED to rape someone. They must have women tripping over themselves to get to them. I have no doubt there is a significant amount of people who are scummy enough to try and take a chunk out of a well-known person after having consensual sex. But I also have no doubt that some of these people have enough of an ego that, because of their status, they can't handle the odd time they are rejected by someone.
However, the fact that she went to the hospital is a pretty big flag that SOMETHING happened.
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