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Old 06-23-2015, 03:00 PM   #41
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So the NHLPA voted to use the 5% escalator clause, which put the cap up to $71.4M. What it means for the players, is larger escrow payments to make up any difference between the escalated cap and the actual revenue. Teams get more flexibility with a higher salary cap to sign free agents and not bury bad contracts. In exchange, each player will likely lose a % of their pay to escrow.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/n...-cap-at-71-4m/
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Old 06-23-2015, 04:27 PM   #42
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Why Engelland? And honestly, even Bollig? Both did just fine in the last portion of the season and the playoffs.
Meh. Those guys are placeholders. We can do way better than Bollig.
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Why Engelland? And honestly, even Bollig? Both did just fine in the last portion of the season and the playoffs.
If you're happy with Status Quo, that's your prerogative.
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If you're happy with Status Quo, that's your prerogative.
If they can improve the team that's different. It seemed like you were suggesting just dumping them for the sake of dumping them. Who is going to replace them that might be an improvement?
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If they can improve the team that's different. It seemed like you were suggesting just dumping them for the sake of dumping them. Who is going to replace them that might be an improvement?
There's already just no shortage of players that are at least as good as them on the (projected) roster, and there's a roster size limit that means we're going to end up exposing some forwards to waivers.

Schlemko has already shown things flow better whenever he's on the ice compared to Engelland in either a middle pairing or a bottom pairing role, and I wouldn't be surprised if Wotherspoon, Nakladal, Morrison have more positive impact even if that's not a given. Regardless, Engelland didn't exactly have a whole lot of positive impact himself. He spent more of the season and postseason struggling than excelling. He's a good 7th Dman though so he's not of utmost importance to drop.

Bollig however, you have to keep room available for a plethora of forwards. Jooris was scratched in a game Bollig played in in the playoffs - that's simply unacceptable as Jooris brings much, much more to the table than Bollig. Evaluating objectively he's a waste of a roster spot and keeping him means getting rid of either a better player (Ferland/Byron/Jooris) or a player with a much higher ceiling (Shore/Wolf) still trying to find his NHL game. Shore definitely won't clear waivers.

Simply put, our roster depth is much deeper now, especially after adding Bennett, than it was going into last season, but the 23 man limit is unchanged. End of the day if Arizona wants to inflate their cap hit, these guys have more value to them than they do to us. There's also Granlund, who's going to get unjustly sent down to the AHL because of that, even though he basically made the team.
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So the NHLPA voted to use the 5% escalator clause, which put the cap up to $71.4M. What it means for the players, is larger escrow payments to make up any difference between the escalated cap and the actual revenue. Teams get more flexibility with a higher salary cap to sign free agents and not bury bad contracts. In exchange, each player will likely lose a % of their pay to escrow.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/n...-cap-at-71-4m/
Strange choice by the players helps UFAs at the expense of everyone else. The only thing it really does for guys currently under contract is falsely drive inflation for future contract years. But even if they successfully continue to drive inflation it makes no difference because they will just pay the bigger contracts back in escrow since it is a fixed % of revenue.
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Strange choice by the players helps UFAs at the expense of everyone else. The only thing it really does for guys currently under contract is falsely drive inflation for future contract years. But even if they successfully continue to drive inflation it makes no difference because they will just pay the bigger contracts back in escrow since it is a fixed % of revenue.
It also increases the number of vets signed
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There's already just no shortage of players that are at least as good as them on the (projected) roster, and there's a roster size limit that means we're going to end up exposing some forwards to waivers.

Schlemko has already shown things flow better whenever he's on the ice compared to Engelland in either a middle pairing or a bottom pairing role, and I wouldn't be surprised if Wotherspoon, Nakladal, Morrison have more positive impact even if that's not a given. Regardless, Engelland didn't exactly have a whole lot of positive impact himself. He spent more of the season and postseason struggling than excelling. He's a good 7th Dman though so he's not of utmost importance to drop.

Bollig however, you have to keep room available for a plethora of forwards. Jooris was scratched in a game Bollig played in in the playoffs - that's simply unacceptable as Jooris brings much, much more to the table than Bollig. Evaluating objectively he's a waste of a roster spot and keeping him means getting rid of either a better player (Ferland/Byron/Jooris) or a player with a much higher ceiling (Shore/Wolf) still trying to find his NHL game. Shore definitely won't clear waivers.

Simply put, our roster depth is much deeper now, especially after adding Bennett, than it was going into last season, but the 23 man limit is unchanged. End of the day if Arizona wants to inflate their cap hit, these guys have more value to them than they do to us. There's also Granlund, who's going to get unjustly sent down to the AHL because of that, even though he basically made the team.
No one wants 'status quo', but i do think having Engelland and Bollig will take some pressure off of Ferland, by letting him focus on his offensive game and not have to be the 1 guy that can stick up for his teammates. Even if they are scratches most nights, having them as an option is nice to have. Moving Raymond, i am all for. Engelland and Bollig should be moved mid season or next offseason, imo.
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Yah good luck selling the NHLPA on making less money.
The PA as a whole will make the same regardless what the floor or limit is. They get 50% of HRR
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Old 06-23-2015, 09:58 PM   #50
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I don't understand why the PA votes to use the escalator clause. It essentially transfer money from those with contracts to those without contracts. Since more players are not free agents than are what's the drive to raise the cap?
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