[PGT] Coyotes Set Attendance Record. Flames win 4-3!

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by BigFlameDog

I don't know what some of you are expecting out of Glencross....he played fine tonight and looked plenty interested, didn't think he was "floating" at all.

Just staring at him waiting for his legs to stop moving or the wrong look on his face I suspect.

Pretty sure he wouldn't be wearing an A if the coaches and teammates actually thought he was floating, uncaring, disinterested.

People had a problem with Glencross tonight?!?!?

really? veteran guy standing in front of the net all night in an EXHIBITION game...directly responsible for the 1st goal and got the winner in OT

Wasn't he the 1st star of the game too?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by dino7c

People had a problem with Glencross tonight?!?!?

really? veteran guy standing in front of the net all night in an EXHIBITION game...directly responsible for the 1st goal and got the winner in OT

Wasn't he the 1st star of the game too?

What game were you watching? I saw a guy show up for overtime after floating his way through 3 periods.

[RoughRiderRowdy]

Loved the play from he majority of the guys tonight. Im going to give my thoughts a little differently and pick out the disappointments I had tonight.

1. Sieloff. Doesn't seem like he can handle the speed of the game, played physical ya but gave the puck away and wasn't thinking of where to go with the puck before he received it. I expect more out of him and he was terrible tonight

2. Kulak. Don't know where all the love for this guy is coming from? again, looks lost out there and I expect more out of him. Hes a pretty tall big dude and doesn't seem to use his size at all and gets beat positionally a lot of the time. And isn't aggressive enough.

3. Klimchuk. I know hes young but just didn't seem to stick out at all for a former 1st round pick. I have a lot of hope for him I just want to see more flashes. Obviously needs to develop NHL strength but it will come.

My first star of the night would have to go to Josh Jooris. Watching this guy play is an absolute treat and like ive said before, good things happen when he is on the ice. I honestly think we have something in him. I am going to go as far to say that hes the diamond in the rough we have been looking for. Hes a Right handed shot, has NHL strength, goes to the net with authority, plays a real sound defensive game and just doesn't make any bad plays out there. Doesn't seem to get knocked around as much as well as ive noticed with a lot of our young and coming prospects.

-How was this kid not drafted?

[RoughRiderRowdy]

just as a side note for all posters, playing on a smaller ice surface really benefits a bigger, stronger, slower type of player. The smaller skilled guys don't have as much time or space to work their magic so that's why certain players might have looked a little off. People need to realise that NHL ice is wayyyy bigger than some small town alberta rink

[JohnnyT]

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

just as a side note for all posters, playing on a smaller ice surface really benefits a bigger, stronger, slower type of player. The smaller skilled guys don't have as much time or space to work their magic so that's why certain players might have looked a little off. People need to realise that NHL ice is wayyyy bigger than some small town alberta rink

It was NHL size I believe

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

just as a side note for all posters, playing on a smaller ice surface really benefits a bigger, stronger, slower type of player. The smaller skilled guys don't have as much time or space to work their magic so that's why certain players might have looked a little off. People need to realise that NHL ice is wayyyy bigger than some small town alberta rink

I'm pretty sure that was the same size

[BigRed]

Originally Posted by AC

This will end well.

You mean with McDavid?

[pylon]

Big SnipErn.

[DOOM]

Does anyone have an official boxscore for the game? NHL.com still doesn't have one.

[Drury18]

I have to pipe in here about Sieloff and the few posters commenting about how terrible he is.

No, Sieloff isn't playing all that great. Let's keep in mind, a year ago he had a very real possibility of dying from a staph infection and then an allergic reaction to the medication they gave him for the infection. This isn't an exaggeration, his infection was that severe where he it could have killed him had he not gotten proper treatment as fast as he did. It wasn't a separated shoulder or torn knee where he could still work out and keep in a game shape, he was then unable to perform any physical activity for 8 weeks (anything that would cause him to break a sweat) and that was after being immobile for a month between the hospital treatments and his at home treatments. And staph infection treatments aren't just an Advil, it's a drug cocktail that make you feel like crap, usually lose weight as you feel sick and don't eat/vomit and take away all your energy. Chances are even if he did want to do something, he wouldn't have been able to. He lost muscle and weight during this time and he's only been "full" training to make up for it since June-ish.

Also keep in mind, he hasn't seen any in game action at this level as he only got 2 games with Abbotsford before getting the infection. He's never played at the AHL or NHL level before. He is no different then Sam Bennett right now for NHL experience. Fresh out of the OHL if you will as that was the last league he had regular time. He also hasn't generally seen any game action in probably 18 months as the last time he played regularly was April 2013.

So yea, when you want to judge how he's playing, please keep that in mind. He does have high expectations of him and I have no doubt he will reach them, but he's lost development time and has to catch up. We can't expect him to play at an elite level at this point, that's unrealistic.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by New Era

I don't think expecting some consistency is being harsh. He really did have an up and down game, and for a player hoping to crack the lineup he can't afford to be wildly inconsistent in three periods. You want to see guys that are ready, look at Granlund and Reinhart. Extremely consistent, giving the coach a performance he can count on, as that what a coach is looking for; a performance that is going to be there almost every time the coach calls the name. Baertschi has improved in certain aspects of his game, but he does not yet appear to have that level of consistency in his performance that can be counted on to the same level of some of the other prospects.

I think he was consistent in this game though. Better results appeared when he played with better players though. I do agree that granlund and gaudreau played better but after watching his shifts for a second time I just don't get the criticism. I watch his game tonight and he seems to be doing everything that management wanted to see improvements in. I don't see him turning pucks over or losing battles along the boards. I can see at least a few of you agree with me. Here's hoping he keeps improving every game in the preseason and earns a spot.

Side note: we knit pick baertschi tonight but I think most would agree he looked better than the top guys from Phoenix tonight... Doan, handzus, etc.

[DOOM]

Great post Drury18.

Also everyone should remember he is only 20.

He was able to play in the AHL last year because of his play in the USHL (I believe)

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by btimbit

I just can't get enough of this. lol Grats with the Cammy one timer from the knee

He is just a ####ing goon. He adds nothing too this team other than taking a spot from some more deserving rookie. The sooner we get rid of his kind the better.

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by DOOM

He was able to play in the AHL last year because of his play in the USHL (I believe)

That is correct. He was drafted from the USHL so he didn't fall under the CHL/AHL agreement. After he was drafted, he chose to go to the OHL and had no bearing no his AHL eligibility. He only needed to be 18 to go play in the AHL.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

He is just a ####ing goon. He adds nothing too this team other than taking a spot from some more deserving rookie. The sooner we get rid of his kind the better.

McGrattalleri

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by getbak

McGrattalleri

I like McGrattan but even a Pylon could have scored on that beauty set up by Granlund. What a play.

[Anduril]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I like McGrattan but even a Pylon could have scored on that beauty set up by Granlund. What a play.

Are you trying to start something?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

What game were you watching? I saw a guy show up for overtime after floating his way through 3 periods.

what about standing in front of the net on the PP, go look at the 1st goal

[combustiblefuel]

Nm

[Freeway]

I like Sieloff, but he needs a full year in the AHL to learn how to play pro hockey. Full-stop.