Compliance Buyout clock starts in 48 hours from....now - Any Flames action?

[Fire]

There will be no compliance buyouts by the Flames. A regular buyout of O'Brien is likely.

[OzSome]

Originally Posted by Vedder

He's a below average skater and one dimensional. He's passable for the Flames right now but he isn't a top four defenceman on a playoff team, and without a dramatic improvement from his post injury play last year he won't be for the Flames next year either.

The guy was playing big minutes before his injuries and he seems to be doing his job. I get it we think he is overpaid just like a lot of people thinks of Jay Bouwmeester while he was a Flame. He too was playing more minutes and were bound to make mistakes now and then. Wideman was pretty good with the puck and was a good passer. He might not be as good defensively as offensively but the guy was helping the Flames. It's not like we have some young defenseman who can play the same minutes as he does pre-injury. Also if you think you can get a decent defenseman in FA who will not get overpaid you are close to dreaming. I also think that decent D you are thinking of might consider signing with a rebuilding team. We have Wideman already who seems to enjoy playing for Calgary. He can help us with the salary cap and can give us time to develop young D.

[AC]

I believe this is how the compliance buyout breakdown works around the league.

Teams With 0 Buyouts Left

1. Chicago (Montador, Olesz)
2. Montreal (Gomez, Kaberle)
3. Philadelphia (Briere, Bryzgalov)
4. Toronto (Komisarek, Grabovski)

Teams With 1 Buyout Left

1. Colorado (Zanon)
2. Detroit (Colaiacovo)
3. Edmonton (Belanger)
4. Minnesota (Gilbert)
5. Nashville (Gill)
6. New Jersey (Hedberg)
7. NY Islanders (DiPietro)
8. NY Rangers (Redden)
9. Tampa Bay (Lecavalier)
10. Washington (Schultz)
11. Vancouver (Ballard)

[Hackey]

O'Brien, Jones, Wideman, Butler were some of Feaster's finest moves.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Hackey

O'Brien, Jones, Wideman, Butler were some of Feasters finest moves.

O'Brien and Jones were terrible, but the hate on Butler on here has always been mind bottling and Wideman has done nothing to be a major buyout candidate. Yes, he's overpaid, but I fail to see the problem with that. It's not like we're close to the cap or anything ... even with an overpaid Wideman, we have to add to even reach the cap floor.

[theoforever]

Wideman played very well prior to his injury, made good plays and delivered some big hits.
After the injury he kind of fell apart. I think he can rebound.

[theslymonkey]

Wideman is the only Right Hand Shooting Defenseman. He has a bomb for a shot, and we want to dump him for nothing??? There's a good idea....

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Vedder

He's a below average skater and one dimensional. He's passable for the Flames right now but he isn't a top four defenceman on a playoff team, and without a dramatic improvement from his post injury play last year he won't be for the Flames next year either.

Worry about it when the Flames are a playoff team. In like 3-4 years. In the meantime theres a floor to hit and games to play.

[devo22]

so who are prime candidates around the league? Brad Richards in New York is pretty much a lock IMO, as should Ville Leino be in Buffalo. Ryan Malone in Tampa, Mike Green in Washington and Mike Richards in L.A. are others I've read about. No idea how realistic those are though ... can easily see Malone being bought out though after his DUI.

[Read Only]

Wideman and Jones would be prome candidates if the Flames had cap issues and/or were close to competing but since the Flames need contracts to reach the floor and can live with the little to nothing that both guys bring might as well keep them around this year to reach the floor.

Wideman looked like a nightmare out there with the big minutes so just because he played them does not mean that it was a good thing for the Flames or that he helped the team. He was often out there for 2 full minutes while the PP failed to generate anything. At best he should see maybe 5-8 minutes ES and then play on the PP but even his PP effectiveness has been pretty poor lately (a lot of missed shots and trouble holding the line). The probelm with that is putting him and Smid together would be like a dream for any forward with speed as neither guy can handle guys going to the outside around them.

No point in buying guys out at this point and unlikely we get much, if anything, to take a big ticket guy off another team to buyout.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by devo22

so who are prime candidates around the league? Brad Richards in New York is pretty much a lock IMO, as should Ville Leino be in Buffalo. Ryan Malone in Tampa, Mike Green in Washington and Mike Richards in L.A. are others I've read about. No idea how realistic those are though ... can easily see Malone being bought out though after his DUI.

Green and Richards will be traded. At least that's how I feel things will go down for those two.

Malone and Leino are no brainers to be bought out, but that remains to be seen.

Off quote, Wideman was good before his wrist injury, and I suspect his poor play after he returned from IR was directly attributed to his wrist not being fully healed. I don't think Wideman is a buy out candidate at all. Most of Russell's point production came while he was paired with Wideman. They gelled well as a pairing on defense.

[Vedder]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Name your figure. I'll take that bet he'll be on this squad.

I wasn't saying that he won't make the team or that should be bought out, just that he will likely play bottom pairing minutes again unless he has a bounce back season. I'm not optimistic about that since he's 31 and has never been more than average defensively. The minutes he has played in first two seasons were a bigger function of being one of the only options amongst a thin group.

The emergence of Brodie has alleviated some of that, and situationally Wideman's minutes have gotten easier as a result. Going forward I think it's more likely that he will be a powerplay specialist that sees sheltered defensive minutes, which is fine.

[dino7c]

Why would the flames buyout wideman because he is slightly overpaid? Flames have TONS of cap space in fact they need to work to reach the floor

some of you just dont get it, Wideman will be making 3.5-4 on his next deal elsewhere its not like he is a 1M player

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Why would the flames buyout wideman because he is slightly overpaid? Flames have TONS of cap space in fact they need to work to reach the floor

some of you just dont get it, Wideman will be making 3.5-4 on his next deal elsewhere its not like he is a 1M player

The third year of term. I would happily pay him 7.88 the next two years to get that last year off his contract. But with retained salary, he should be tradable 2 years from now.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

I wouldn't mind the Flames buying out David Jones and going after Dave Bolland. That'd be a nice swap IMO.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire

I wouldn't mind the Flames buying out David Jones and going after Dave Bolland. That'd be a nice swap IMO.

We don't have to buyout Jones to go after Bolland. Not likely any notable UFA's will be attracted to the 4th worst team in the league though. Unlikely we'll buyout anybody except maybe SOB. Doesn't make much sense given our cap situation and Jones isn't nearly as bad as some make him out to be. He was playing pretty well before he got injured.

[sureLoss]

Roger Millions @RogMillions
#Flames official position on Compliance Buyouts. Says GM Brad Treliving as of now "We are evaluating it". #Flames still have both as of now

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Roger Millions @RogMillions
#Flames official position on Compliance Buyouts. Says GM Brad Treliving as of now "We are evaluating it". #Flames still have both as of now

The only one I could see worth bothering with is Shane O'Brien with Wideman and Jones as long shots.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Wideman shouldn't be bought out. If we want to get rid of him, we'll trade him with retained salary.

D. Jones is a question mark... Since this is the only time we can buyout the guy, I don't mind what we do with him.

[Read Only]

Unless we are concerned about the 50 contract limit buying out SOB doesn't make much sense. He is a mess defensively out there but seems like a perfect fit for the 7th guy in the PB so long as his attitude is good which it seems to be based on comments when sent down last year. I would rather him in the PB than a young guy that could benefit from playing in Adirondack and his salary (1.5ish?) helps get us up to the floor.