Wild Tried to Trade Heatley to Calgary at deadline?

[Phaneufenstein]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

^ I'd rather have the Ottawa Heatley.

I'd rather have San Jose Cheechoo

[saillias]

I'd rather have Pittsburgh Lemieux

[keratosis]

Loob Calgary would be great also.

[Clever_Iggy]

Phew. The compensation would have had to have been punitive to Minnesota to make it worth it for me. One of my most hated players and individuals in the league.

[trackercowe]

I'm on the fence for Heatley as a reclamation project. On the one hand we need to get to the cap floor next year, and could benefit by adding a veteran or two to the team. Our options are also quite limited as there aren't many UFA's who are going to come to Calgary during a rebuild. Heatley's salary would likely be reasonable, and a short term deal could be beneficial to both sides.

Heatley was a pretty good player on three different teams, and only Minnesota's commitment to team defense really brought him down. Heater is only a few years removed from scoring at a PPG pace, and still put up a reasonable 53 points in his first year in Minnesota. He's been hot garbage the last couple seasons though, and one could easily argue the game has passed him by. He's become a pariah in many circles and his options might be limited once he hits free agency.

The real question though is if Heatley is open to coming to Calgary would we even want him here? Do we want him around players like Monahan who are just learning how to become pros, and having someone as nonchalant as Heatley around him might do more harm than good.

I think if Burke strikes out in free agency I'd hope he would offer Heatley a one or two year contact in the range of 3-4 million per season. Some on here might say that's ridiculous and it just might be, but if our options are limited he just might be the only natural fit out there. I'd especially want to go that route over signing someone to a Clarkson type deal, where we're forced to overpay someone for too many years (that will only hinder matters once the rebuild is finished), like a Ryan Calahan for example.

[codynw]

Do "reclamation projects" ever work out for veteran players? I know it happens with prospects sometimes, but I can't think of any examples of it happening with a player in their 30s.

[Beatle17]

If this is true I don't know why anyone is getting upset or calling it a reclamation. His contract expires at the end of the season so there is no reclamation, there is 20 games. This is exactly the type of deal the team should have been taking on if it included other prospects and/or draft picks.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

I think if Burke strikes out in free agency I'd hope he would offer Heatley a one or two year contact in the range of 3-4 million per season. Some on here might say that's ridiculous and it just might be, but if our options are limited he just might be the only natural fit out there. I'd especially want to go that route over signing someone to a Clarkson type deal, where we're forced to overpay someone for too many years (that will only hinder matters once the rebuild is finished), like a Ryan Calahan for example.

I'd rather pay way too much for a year or two to a mid tier UFA who works his butt off and can play a regular shift. Heatley would be a waste of a roster spot IMO.

Edit: 1 year 5M for Jagr would be interesting with the promise to trade him to a contender for a playoff run.

[Tinordi]

He would have been a useful portent for our young players as well.

"See this once proud Rocket Richard winning premier goal scorer not 6 seasons ago? Now look at this pathetic desiccated husk of a man. You too could turn into a Dany Heatley should you believe that you're owed your fame and privilege."

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

He would have been a useful portent for our young players as well.

"See this once proud Rocket Richard winning premier goal scorer not 6 seasons ago? Now look at this pathetic desiccated husk of a man. You too could turn into a Dany Heatley should you believe that you're owed your fame and privilege."

So you're saying Edmonton should sign him?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Jacks

So you're saying Edmonton should sign him?

Attempt to sign him.

[FlamesAddiction]

You do have to wonder how any veteran pending UFA would react to being traded from a playoff team to a bottom feeder though. I could see a lot of players really mailing it in after that point. Maybe it was better to not introduce that awkward element to the locker room.

Having said that, Heatley would have been given every chance to get ice-time and get a good streak in before hitting free agency. It might have worked out.

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by getbak

If this is the deal Burke was talking about, everything was settled on the Flames side, but it required the other team to complete another deal, which they weren't able to do.

It's likely Minnesota was trying to get something done for Vanek, which would have required them dumping some cap hit. When that fell through, it was no longer worth it for them to pay the Flames to take on Heatley.

Yea I was thinking the samething, Vanek or Moulson.. or possibly even Cammalleri going back.

All of the posturing by the Isles really screwed a lot of teams trying to trade over.. and in the end the return they got is an absolute joke compared to what they gave up.

Too bad, the Wild have so many good young players and prospects.. and we had more than 1 veteran player to help them in their playoff run plus all that Heatley eating cap room. Could have been a good one.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

You do have to wonder how any veteran pending UFA would react to being traded from a playoff team to a bottom feeder though. I could see a lot of players really mailing it in after that point. Maybe it was better to not introduce that awkward element to the locker room.

Having said that, Heatley would have been given every chance to get ice-time and get a good streak in before hitting free agency. It might have worked out.

For 15-20 games you smile, tell him he's great, and take the pick

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by codynw

Do "reclamation projects" ever work out for veteran players? I know it happens with prospects sometimes, but I can't think of any examples of it happening with a player in their 30s.

Selanne returning to Anaheim to win a cup after disappointing in San Jose and Anaheim.

Really the only one that was a home run.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

All of the posturing by the Canucks really screwed a lot of teams trying to trade over.

FYP. I think it was the drama over Kesler that mucked stuff up.

[trackercowe]

Tanguay was a reclamation project that at least worked out well for a couple seasons. The ending sure did suck, but that year he was paid 1.7 million was a bargain

[ricosuave]

I thought Heatley had a NMC clause or something, that he didnt want to come back and face the pressure of playing in his hometown, thought I read that a few years ago when Edm tried to trade for him?

[CalgaryFan1988]

I remember reading CP on deadline day and someone mentioned rumours of Heatley becoming a Flame as part of a 3 way trade (Anaheim, Minnesota, Calgary).

Fell apart when Vanek went to Montreal.


Wild needed to clear space to absorb Vaneks contract, Islanders weren't willing to take on money, Flames were.

My best guess would be something like this

To Anaheim - Cammalleri

To Minnesota - 3rd round pick

To Calgary - Heatley and a 2nd

*montreal, not Ottawa for Vanek.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

My best guess would be something like this

To Anaheim - Cammalleri

To Minnesota - 3rd round pick

To Calgary - Heatley and a 2nd

not sure why Minnesota would get a 3rd in that scenario. IMO Calgary would have received Heatley, MINs 2nd for taking on Heatley's salary and ANAs 3rd and ANAs 5th for Cammalleri (probably a fair price considering the prices that were paid on deadline day). Minnesota gets future considerations or a useless contract like James Martin or something like that.