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Old 03-11-2014, 01:54 PM   #21
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I guess if they really need cap space, they will still need it at the draft.
No they won't. Heatley's contract ends after this season.

Without moving out another large contract, the Wild could not have fit Vanek's contract under the cap if they had acquired him last week.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:55 PM   #22
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No they won't. Heatley's contract ends after this season.
yep. Plus the cap rises by 7m or so.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:56 PM   #23
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thing is: since Vanek might very well sign with them anyway, they could potentially go all crazy and have them both next year.

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Thomas Vanek ($7.000m) / Mikko Koivu ($6.750m) / Jason Pominville ($5.600m)
Matt Moulson ($6.000m) / Zach Parise ($7.538m) / Mikael Granlund ($0.900m)
Nino Niederreiter ($2.500m) / Erik Haula ($0.900m) / Charlie Coyle ($0.900m)
Jason Zucker ($1.000m) / Kyle Brodziak ($2.833m) / Matt Cooke ($2.500m)
Justin Fontaine ($1.000m) / Cody McCormick ($1.200m) /

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Ryan Suter ($7.538m) / Jonas Brodin ($0.894m)
Jared Spurgeon ($2.667m) / Marco Scandella ($1.025m)
Keith Ballard ($1.500m) / Clayton Stoner ($2.000m)
Mathew Dumba ($0.894m) /

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Niklas Backstrom ($3.417m)
Josh Harding ($1.900m)

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SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,456,923; BONUSES: $3,383,333
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $2,643,077

easily cap compliant. Scary offense ... goaltending a bit of a question mark (they do have Kuemper though) and defense could use one more good player, but other than that ...
Except that the cap is being forecast between $68 and $69 million...
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They need a good goalie more than they need both Vanek and Moulson.
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Except that the cap is being forecast between $68 and $69 million...
... have I missed something?

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The salary cap for the 2014-15 season is projected to be approximately $71 million, a growth of more than 10 percent, NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman said at the League's Board of Governors meeting on Monday.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=695203
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:59 PM   #26
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Do you really want a Ferrari smashing a guy like that around the kids? Isn't he out of shape and plagued by a bad work ethic?

What would they do with him? Bury in the minors? Buy him out?
Maybe use him as an NHLPA version of the show Scared Straight?
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Canadian dollar has decreased which effects the cap. Its estimated to be coming in at between 66 and 68 mil right now.

So some of the teams that planned for a 71 mil cap next year are a bit screwed.
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Everyone knows that all news broken on Mondays is unofficial at best and generally presumed to be lies.
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Old 03-11-2014, 02:00 PM   #29
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Plus if they consider themselves legit contenders, they don't want to get Suttered late in the year with too many contracts and no cap space.
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... have I missed something?

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=695203
Canadian dollar dropped in value, so the cap is probably going to be lower than it was originally projected.
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The Canadian dollar decreasing can help the Flames pick up some nice UFA's this coming year if we're willing to pick up any. Also can help if a team really needs to unload some good players that are taking too much space in the cap.
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We have someone on our team that killed a team mate while driving a new Ferrari 140 MPH in a residential area? I don't claim to be an expert, but if that's true then I really need to catch up on my Flames fun facts.

Yeah, I can accept the part about his body being worn out.

I guess if they really need cap space, they will still need it at the draft.
Not sure why there would be a concern 11 years later. It's been his burden to deal with. People have made mistakes, some more serious than others. McGrattan had to work through alcohol abuse. Shouldn't we be concerned that he'll turn the kids into the next Carter/Richards?

For a guy who has been demoted to the 4th line, he's taken his lumps and continued to work hard without complaints, even moving back up the lineup at times. Even scored 11 goals compared to Cammy's 13. ~11 assists versus ~19 but for a broken down player who can barely skate, not bad.
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Perhaps it could be why the deal never happened.
Except that Burke flatly said that he had the deal done on his end but the other side couldn't get it's part done. It's not a matter of Burke "not budging" it's a matter of another deal not coming to fruitition.
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I am going to take a flyer and say it involved Min's 1st and Brodziak or Cooke coming back.
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Interesting that it was Stafford they were after and not Vanek as was being reported. Too bad we couldn't capitalize but thems the breaks. Probably prevented a second crash of CP that day with all the anti-Heatley vitriol around here.
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I believe Heatley played for Bob Hartley in Atlanta before going to Ottawa.Could Hartley renew the player D.Heatley was ?
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^ I'd rather have the Ottawa Heatley.
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Stafford and Parise are tight from UND, I believe.
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^ I'd rather have the Ottawa Heatley.
Then we'd need the early 2000's Alfredsson and Spezza...
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I believe Heatley played for Bob Hartley in Atlanta before going to Ottawa.Could Hartley renew the player D.Heatley was ?
Depends, does Bob Hartley have a time machine?

Heatley is done.
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