What do you expect from Sean Monahan this upcoming season?

[You Need a Thneed]

World Junior Champ, Memorial Cup Champ, and Stanley Cup Champ.

[Freddy]

When was the last time an 18 year old rookie made the Flames? Given the franchises history I'd say he plays 9 games and is sent back to junior, however, I think the current state of the team and the maturity of Monahan will buck the trend and he'll get a full-time spot wearing the flaming C. Hartley will likely shelter his minutes to 3rd line and if he's doing well some 2nd penalty kill duty, that will give Sean a chance to adjust to the speed & physicality of the NHL without any emphasis of expectations of high offensive output. In that light, I'll predict he plays the full season, gets an underwhelming 18 points, becomes the target of much CP bitterness, but grows into a long career inwhich he's regarded as a legit 1st line center.

[Izzle]

Originally Posted by jg13

Seems like the general consensus is 9 games then back to the OHL.

What if Sean has 3 goals 3 assists after 9 games? Does he stay on the big team or is it back to Junior after the 9 games no matter what.

Still send him jrs.

Easy peasey



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[Hockey_Ninja]

MVP...in the OHL.

[Poe969]

Team Canada Olympic captain.

[djsFlames]

Will be a Flame.

Rips it up with Sven, inducing fits of rage and jealousy on rival Edmonton and Vancouver fans.

We finally feel like a line on this team has real chemistry.

Still goes to world juniors..because he can, in fact, do that.

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Hart trophy, Art Ross trophy, Maurice Richard trophy, Selke trophy, Stanley Cup, Conn Smythe trophy, Jack Adams trophy, Team Canada Olympic Captain, gold medalist in Men's Ice Hockey and also in Men's Curling and stars in a series of commercials for men's haircare products.

[To Be Quite Honest]

A BQQ. I expect a BBQ. Pork roast with lots of beer.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by BACKCHECK!!!

Strong showing in Penticton tournament - is anointed saviour by CP.

Takes a big hit in pre-season, sits out a shift - high expectations shattered by injury concerns.

Makes opening day roster - Feaster is rushing Flames' top prospect.

Struggles early on in the NHL, picks up 2 or 3 assists, no goals - Rebuild is a failure.

Returns to juniors after 9 game stint - ZOMG it's Dustin Boyd all over again.

Monahan beats previous point totals despite shortened junior season - proves Feaster was wrong to demote him and destroy his confidence like that.

Monahan is drowned out by the general wailing and gnashing of teeth that will be CP for most of this upcoming season - why is the organization hiding the kid? Is he a bust like Jankowski?

Gets brought up to the Heat after OHL season ends - ticker tape parade held in Bowness.

Scores 3 points in final 3 games of season with Heat - the Saviour has returned! Lets all go to to Chucky Cheese's!!!

My over-under on when a CP poster in all seriousness suggests Monahan as a candidate for the Canadian Olympic team: Nov 5th.

Marvelous post.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

I think something like this will suffice.

77 Goals.
A 6 Goal game.
4 Goals in his 1st game.
71 Assists.
An 8 Assist game.
5 Assists in his 1st Game.
133 Points.
22 Playoff points.
15 Playoff Goals.
15 Playoff Assists.
15 game goal streak.
21 game point streak.
the Art Ross trophy.
the Hart trophy.
the Calder trophy.
the Vezina trophy.
the Norris trophy.
the Conn Smythe.
the Stanley Cup.
Team Captain out of camp.
Have the best Movember 'stache.

Another magnificent post. Numbers don't lie

[Bingo]

I have many I thinks and many I hopes on this one.

I think he'll look good enough for nine games.
I think he'll force them to consider burning the ELC because he's on the bubble and a good story.

I hope they do the right thing and send him back down.
But I also hope they don't because he'd be a good story to focus on all year in a rebuilding dreary winter.

I hope I'm not thinking too much.

[kermitology]

I wouldn't be too concerned with burning an year on his ELC, simply because playing him this year allows you to stagger what might end up as big contract renewals for him, Gaudreau, perhaps the next year first round pick.

There are a lot of strategies in play, and if you can shelter him a bit this year while he adjust to the speed of the NHL game, then that works out nicely.

I think the first year, we should temper our expectations, but not fear that he plays in the NHL.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by kermitology

I wouldn't be too concerned with burning an year on his ELC, simply because playing him this year allows you to stagger what might end up as big contract renewals for him, Gudreau, perhaps the next year first round pick.



There are a lot of strategies in play, and if you can shelter him a bit this year while he adjust to the speed of the NHL game, then that works out nicely.



I think the first year, we should temper our expectations, but not fear that he plays in the NHL.


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I expect him to spend the year in the NHL but I think this nails it on the head. Don't be afraid to shelter and let him develop, I'd rather him take his time and learn properly then be tossed in with a savior or bust attitude. As good as the kid is I'm always afraid that pressure hurts development more than helping it.

There are lots of examples but I always go back to Joe Thornton with this line of thinking. Jumped to the NHL right away, played sheltered 4th line minutes, got all of 7 points in 55 games, but look at him now.

I think the best place for Monahan is on the Flames but not necessarily in a top 6 role. He has great vision and good defensive instincts. Some time in a defensive role wouldn't hurt him.

[Sylvanfan]

Planning to keep him up for 9 games than send hin down seems like fantasy hockey to me. If he looks good enough in camp that he can make the team and play regularly than keep him up. If he struggles badly and looks overwhelmed than send him down by his 9th game. If the team is unsure at the end of camp, he goes down at that point. But if he makes the team out of camp...it's because the team feels strongly that he will stick the entire season. Starting a guy in the NHL having him play okay than pulling the rug from his feet at 9 games would be a bad thing to do.

[Bingo]

two other factors in not worrying about the ELC issue are;

his attitude ... kids seems pretty loyal already

the Flames franchise ... spend to the cap team likely going forward and will keep him

[Izzle]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Planning to keep him up for 9 games than send hin down seems like fantasy hockey to me. If he looks good enough in camp that he can make the team and play regularly than keep him up. If he struggles badly and looks overwhelmed than send him down by his 9th game. If the team is unsure at the end of camp, he goes down at that point. But if he makes the team out of camp...it's because the team feels strongly that he will stick the entire season. Starting a guy in the NHL having him play okay than pulling the rug from his feet at 9 games would be a bad thing to do.

lol, that's oilers talk... There is absolutely no need for the flames to burn one year on his elc..they are not competing this year, let him dominate jrs.


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[Heavy Jack]

I was gonna vote Nine games and out. But I really do feel he has the tools to start and stay at the NHL level. If he has a great showing in those 9 games it would be really hard to let him go back down but if they do indeed go that route I will agree with it as well he will dominate at that level and he's currently one of the most NHL ready prospects from this draft according to numerous player profiles on him.

[Sylvanfan]

k

Originally Posted by Izzle

lol, that's oilers talk... There is absolutely no need for the flames to burn one year on his elc..they are not competing this year, let him dominate jrs.


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How so? I never said anything along the lines of he must play regardless. Burning up a year of an ELC OMG! That is as you would call it Oilers talk.

Monahan still has a lot to accomplish in Junior so I have no problem with him being there all year. But I will let his camp performance determine his fate. I think it is crazy to predetermined that he plays 9 games and than goes to Junior. I say you should have enough to go on by the end of Training camp to know if he needs to go back or if he should stay all year. None of your Oilers talk. In fact I think a month in Calgary, than a month in Ottawa, than a month with the WJC team, than potentially a new team come January could be a bit unsettling. Might be better for him to settle in Junior right away.

[Izzle]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

k

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Originally Posted by Izzle

lol, that's oilers talk... There is absolutely no need for the flames to burn one year on his elc..they are not competing this year, let him dominate jrs.


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How so? I never said anything along the lines of he must play regardless. Burning up a year of an ELC OMG! That is as you would call it Oilers talk.

Monahan still has a lot to accomplish in Junior so I have no problem with him being there all year. But I will let his camp performance determine his fate. I think it is crazy to predetermined that he plays 9 games and than goes to Junior. I say you should have enough to go on by the end of Training camp to know if he needs to go back or if he should stay all year. None of your Oilers talk. In fact I think a month in Calgary, than a month in Ottawa, than a month with the WJC team, than potentially a new team come January could be a bit unsettling. Might be better for him to settle in Junior right away.

This might be extreme, but I think he should go down after nine games even if he comes in and leads the team in scoring. Flames are going no where this season. He goes down, dominates, becomes a leader, wjc domination and then next year he can make the team. Its just one guys opinion though.


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[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Izzle

This might be extreme, but I think he should go down after nine games even if he comes in and leads the team in scoring. Flames are going no where this season. He goes down, dominates, becomes a leader, wjc domination and then next year he can make the team. Its just one guys opinion though.


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Give me an example of a player who got a 9 game look, got sent down and came back the next year and played well.

Scott Niedermeyer in 91-92 played 4 games in the NHL, than went down is the one guy I can find. All others tended to struggle for a year or two after their 9 game sample. Starting a player in the NHL than moving them back to Junior hockey is a good way to mess with their heads and strain the player organization relationship. The Flames need to focus on developing Monahan as a player the best way they can that suits him best as an individual rather than try to group him with three other young guys all playing top roles on ELC's. My opinion. If the Flames have to pay him 7 million a year four years from now because he's played 240 games and put up 200 points...fine by me.