Kiprusoff may have more value than ever

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Read it in the Sun yesterday so I believe fact.

Honestly the first time I have ever heard this sentence.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by polak

I'd throw Backlund in as untouchable too.

Backlund and Brodie untouchable......................holly #### we are loose with that term. We are so starved for prospects that anyone under the age of 25 that looks like they might be an NHL player of some sort is untouchable................rediculous.

There are no untouchables on this 14th place team, except mabe Sven if we truely believe he's got the ability to be an elite forward in the future. Players that may look like decent NHLers in the future should not be "untouchable".

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

While it would be great, I think the ROR move shows that this organization is still committed to challenging for the playoffs this year; and they know that Kiprusoff is their single best chance of making it happen this season. I think the only way we rebuild is if KK/Feaster get canned.

You have to explain to me how going after a guy who just turned 22 means they are in a win now mindset where everything is about making the playoffs this year. Comments like this are rather infuriating and make no sense to me.

There is plenty to get on Feaster's case about, but don't rag on him for things he's not doing.

[Husky]

Kipper has value and its time to deal him.

Flames are not going to win the cup with or without him. TIme to get a little asset valur for him. For next year bring over Ramo and sign a veteran goalie for a 2 yearish contract. Some decent veterans potential veterans goalies on the market.

Backstrom, Thomas, Howard, Smith.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Backlund and Brodie untouchable......................holly #### we are loose with that term. We are so starved for prospects that anyone under the age of 25 that looks like they might be an NHL player of some sort is untouchable................rediculous.

There are no untouchables on this 14th place team, except mabe Sven if we truely believe he's got the ability to be an elite forward in the future. Players that may look like decent NHLers in the future should not be "untouchable".

Actually now that I think about it you're right.

This team has zero foundation in place for a good team. In no position can we say "well, atleast we're good in ______ for the next few years"...

This team needs upgrades across the board and none of our prospects look like they're going to step up to the plate any time soon (maybe backlund if he can get back to pre-injury form).

The more I think about it, the scarier it gets.

EDIT: Okay, we have a lot of decent second liners....

[getbak]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Do you think Omsk will let him be bought out by CGY? Especially if the Rumors are true that they want to throw some big time money at him? I mean if that is the case I could see the Flames deal Kipper.

If he makes it clear to them that his plan is to come to Calgary next year, why would they prevent it? Other than spite, there's no good reason to block the Flames from signing him now.

[GoFlamesGo1989]

Originally Posted by getbak

Ramo's KHL season could be over tomorrow morning. His team is playing game 7 of its first-round playoff series at 4:00pm Moscow time, which I believe is 5:00am MST.

I know Feaster has said all the right things about him not being an option this season, but it will be interesting to see if that changes once his season is officially over over there.

I highly doubt this because Ramo would have to clear waivers to play in the NHL this year.

[$ven27]

Unless we go on a big losing streak until the deadline I don't see the possibility of moving Kipper being there. Even then I see us making some desperation move to try to save the season rather then trade him. I think if we blow the rest of the season, and it continues onto next season, that's when we see major changes, which is sad.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

You have to explain to me how going after a guy who just turned 22 means they are in a win now mindset where everything is about making the playoffs this year. Comments like this are rather infuriating and make no sense to me.

There is plenty to get on Feaster's case about, but don't rag on him for things he's not doing.

So you are saying he is not trying to make the playoffs this year, then?

[Knalus]

Anytime anyone uses the phrase "... the mandate to win now", that's when I stop reading their post, and avoid their next one as well.

[HelloHockeyFans]

Moving Kiprusoff is interesting, but I wonder what kind of return Calgary would get for him... historically, I don't think number one goalies ever get fair value back.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by GoFlamesGo1989

I highly doubt this because Ramo would have to clear waivers to play in the NHL this year.

I don't think he would.

Is he not a Flames RFA who is likely on our reserve list....if those two things are true we saw that he wouldn't have to clear waivers.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I don't think he would.

Is he not a Flames RFA who is likely on our reserve list....if those two things are true we saw that he wouldn't have to clear waivers.

Ramo would not have to clear waivers. He's on Calgary's reserve list, and thus falls within the new exception to Rule 13.23.

[Vinny01]

definitely disagree his value is any higher now if anything it is lower.

He got off to a terrible start to the year and is coming off a month injury. Carolina is not trading for him, doubtful Tampa is either.

Florida might have interest due to the low actual $. Toronto, Detriot could have interest. I see the Wings wanting Bouw more than any Flame however.

Kipper is not getting a huge return unless he comes back and goes lights out for 5-10 games and that will result in the Flames playing 0.700 hockey and likely not trading him off.

Kipper trade will likely be revisited at the draft or possibly the deadline if the right offer comes by.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Knalus

Anytime anyone uses the phrase "... the mandate to win now", that's when I stop reading their post, and avoid their next one as well.

Might as well put me on ignore list if you have not already.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

So you are saying he is not trying to make the playoffs this year, then?

Going after Ryan O'Reily, who was 21 a month ago isn't a sign of that. That's the point.

[zamler]

Teams interested in Kiprusoff are not going to look at a small stretch of games to judge his worth, they are going to look at his play in general. I personally think Miikka has significant trade value, he is top 5 IMO when he's on his game, plus he might very well be the toughest goalie mentally in the NHL.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn

I guess it all depends on what Kipper wants. He looks pretty content to me.

Kipper always gave me the impression that he doesn't really care where he plays, as long as he gets to go fishing in the summer. That lack of emotion or attachment is probably why he's a goalie who never gets rattled, but it also means he'd not be devastated about leaving. He pretty much gets the hell out of dodge as soon as the season is over anyway.

He's been my favorite Flame ever since he got here, but him moving on might be the best for everyone. He can get himself into the playoffs again, and we can start moving on with the next generation.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Going after Ryan O'Reily, who was 21 a month ago isn't a sign of that. That's the point.

So you do think mgm would trade Kiprusoff, who is their single most important piece to making a playoff push this year? I would disagree. I don't think mgm would be willing to do that.

[GoFlamesGo1989]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

Ramo would not have to clear waivers. He's on Calgary's reserve list, and thus falls within the new exception to Rule 13.23.

Isn't this the same thing as Ryan O'Rielly though?