02-19-2013, 02:42 PM
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He won't be suspended. He's a clean player, always has been, this is a very isolated issue, may be a fine at most.
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02-19-2013, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by puckluck2
Yeah for the better of the game Cooke should never be in the NHL again. I really hope someone ends his career, and his accidental cutting has nothing to do with me wanting him out of the NHL.
Do you even understand what the word hypocrite means because your post makes no sense.
I never said Gio deserved a suspension or didn't. Simply said he needed to watch the game from up top but keep holding that grudge and making things up.
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I really hope you get a life
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02-19-2013, 02:49 PM
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Give me a break ....
it was a hockey play that he received a penalty for. Give me a break with all the "it was dirty" stuff... A guy can get hurt just as bad from a high stick or a trip in a dangerous place.
Should those plays receive fines also?... Cmon... It was 2 guys in the NHL, not 2 kids playing rec hockey. They are big boys who compete hard.
You want to start giving fines for minor penalties? Look at slashing. Slashing is basicly an attempt to injure. At the very least an attempt to intimidate the other player that could cause serious damage.
A slew foot is a trip. Regardless of the device used, a trip is a trip. So all stick infractions should now be fined? Cmon... Lets get real here with all this whining about how embarassed some of you are... its rediculous.
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02-19-2013, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyC
However, in the same game Begin literally grabbed the leg of his fighting opponent and body slammed him on the ice. This is not wrestling or UFC done on a padded mat. This is played on rock solid ice. That is dirty, dangerous and he should see a whole pile of suspension. If the guys not wearing a helmet he could easily be killed doing that.
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I agree. I've never been a fan of guys grabbing the other guy's legs in a fight.
It seems like one of the most dangerous and unnecessary plays in the game and I'm surprised there isn't more of an outcry against it when it happens.
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02-19-2013, 03:00 PM
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I don't know if Gio's intent was to injure the guy. If his motive was to hurt the guy, then it can be considered dirty. If it were just careless and unthinking, then it's not, by definition, dirty, and to me, this falls into the latter.
Going into the boards like that, Gio looks like he's trying to put a shoulder in front of the guy and trying to get in front of him. Because he doesn't get there first, he uses his shoulder and pushes back the guy while his legs were apart, causing the Stars player to fall back and trip over Gio's leg. If his legs were less apart, it wouldn't be a problem.
It's a trip that would be a penalty most of the time, but now the player tripped was in a vulnerable position. It's not even a slew foot, as from what I understand, you have to move your foot forward and basically sweep the guy's leg for it to be that. It looks like Giordano uses his body to make the guy go over his own leg and I don't really see Gio moving his leg forward. Maybe it's a careless play, but I'd be surprised if there was any suspension out of this. I'm thinking 50/50 chance of a fine with the most likely scenario is he gets a reprimand from the league and gets told to be careful not to trip guys like that so close to the boards.
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02-19-2013, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by IgiTang
A slew foot is a trip. Regardless of the device used, a trip is a trip.
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I don't know about that. That's like calling to hand chopping a guy over the head "high sticking".
A slew foot is a dirty and dangerous play. Where Gio did it was especially dangerous due to his proximity to the boards.
Due to Gio being a 1st time offender (right?) and the apparent lack of malicious intent, I can't see a suspension. But it's a dirty play and should be addressed (even witty just a phone call/meeting re supplemental discipline).
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02-19-2013, 04:44 PM
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#47
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Keep in mind these were all when the maximum fine was $2,500.
Slow-foot videos
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02-19-2013, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by united
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You know where I could find a copy of the Kostitsyn/Burrows mic'd up slew foot? Thanks to that, I still always pronounce it slewwwwwww foot. And everyone who hasn't seen the slow motion replay thinks I'm mentally challenged.
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02-19-2013, 07:04 PM
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02-19-2013, 07:10 PM
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Was it dirty? Probably.
But it wasn't the worst play in the game. I'd rather penalize a guy like Morrow who took a run at Giordano while he was vulnerable (argue about it being a shot to the head or not, it is kind of secondary). He was actively being hooked by Jagr and clearly in a bad position when Morrow charged at him.
Dunno, maybe next time someone can hold back Giordano's arms in the middle of a fight and let someone KO him. Would the NHL look at it then?
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02-19-2013, 08:06 PM
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#51
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Originally Posted by IgiTang
Give me a break ....
it was a hockey play that he received a penalty for. Give me a break with all the "it was dirty" stuff... A guy can get hurt just as bad from a high stick or a trip in a dangerous place.
Should those plays receive fines also?... Cmon... It was 2 guys in the NHL, not 2 kids playing rec hockey. They are big boys who compete hard.
You want to start giving fines for minor penalties? Look at slashing. Slashing is basicly an attempt to injure. At the very least an attempt to intimidate the other player that could cause serious damage.
A slew foot is a trip. Regardless of the device used, a trip is a trip. So all stick infractions should now be fined? Cmon... Lets get real here with all this whining about how embarassed some of you are... its rediculous.
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Yes, a guy can get hurt from a lot of plays in the NHL, but I can guarantee you that the percentage of injuries from a slew foot is far higher than from high stick or a slash. That is why the slew foot is subject to a disciplinary hearing.
I disagree with your argument that "regardless of the device used, a trip is a trip". Look at ten videos of a trip via stick and via slew foot, you will understand that there is a difference.
Also, that was definitely not a hockey play, anything against the rules of hockey is not a hockey play. Giordano needs to understand this and realize that playing like that will only put the team in a worse situation.
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02-19-2013, 08:11 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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To clear the air, a slewfoot penalty is a major. Like hitting from behind, you get kicked out of the game for it. A slewfoot is MUCH more dangerous than tripping with a stick.
52.2 Match Penalty - Any player who is guilty of slew-footing shall be assessed a match penalty
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