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[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

Puckluck had mood swings. He'd be ok for a day or two, then just do drive-bys and other such nonsense. In hockey terms, he wasn't very consistent.

Have the mods confirmed he's gone for good?

I used to get "lifetime suspension" bans all the time, even though they were only for a month or two at a time. Got everyone's hopes up that I was gone for good, when really it is just that I don't think Ken knows how the "in the sin bin" function works. (kidding, please don't ban me!)

[photon]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Speaking of which, how do other sites manage banned posters? Is everywhere like CP? By that I mean, do other sites have problems screening returning banned posters?

To one degree or another yes, or at least on the other forums of about this size that I visit. They have people that return continuously under new names and such. Some have delayed registration (i.e. a Mod has to approve the new account) and do IP checks and stuff.

But pretty much every forum I've been to has the "banned x who was returning poster x' who was returning poster x'' who was returning poster x''' who was.." problem.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Vox

I could give you out-of-band authentication where you get a pin number upon registering and have to call a number from a valid phone and enter the pin number. Of even validate off the DNIS digits of the mobile phone. Lots of techy options to play with!

Yeah, focusing on mobile phones might be better, limits the pool of available options to re-register.

I was thinking of an SMS gateway type thing where it would send an SMS with a verification code, but the other direction might work too.

Wonder if we could sell it as a service.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Speaking of which, how do other sites manage banned posters? Is everywhere like CP? By that I mean, do other sites have problems screening returning banned posters?

The system would probably need to log all of the IP addresses that a user logged in from, so they just don't start logging in from phone or work or home after they get banned.

[Vox]

Originally Posted by photon

Yeah, focusing on mobile phones might be better, limits the pool of available options to re-register.

I was thinking of an SMS gateway type thing where it would send an SMS with a verification code, but the other direction might work too.

Wonder if we could sell it as a service.

Actually, we could do the texting too. We just launched the Transit SMS service, so this would be a piece of cake. In theory it would be possible to give the option for text or voice to a user as they register. There would be a small third party cost to the texting, but it could probably be sponsored. You're right, could be a very interesting service.

[MrMastodonFarm]

I like where this thread is going.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Have the mods confirmed he's gone for good?

I used to get "lifetime suspension" bans all the time, even though they were only for a month or two at a time. Got everyone's hopes up that I was gone for good, when really it is just that I don't think Ken knows how the "in the sin bin" function works. (kidding, please don't ban me!)

Just to address this; there are often two reasons for this:

1) A user will sometimes successfully appeal a suspension.

2) More frequently, one of us will choose the wrong suspension. The two different types are a result of a hack Photon put in there. So the default option when we ban says "Move user to the 'banned users' list." For the temporary suspensions we have to remember to change 'banned users' to 'temporary suspensions' list.

However I do accept your challenge Cecil; and will be sure to choose wisely the next time I ban you.

[kirant]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

Puckluck had mood swings. He'd be ok for a day or two, then just do drive-bys and other such nonsense. In hockey terms, he wasn't very consistent.

Blair Jones cost the team the game

More on topic, it seems to be more of a maturity thing when it comes to multiple accounts. My experience with users who form new accounts after bannings are either there to strike back at the forum in some form (my personal favourite was a kid who returned purely to actively break as many rules as possible before getting outed) or have returned more reasonable and have actually learned their lesson. While more of the former seems to exist, there are examples of the latter. Maybe it's just worth keeping the system as is?

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by kirant

While more of the former seems to exist, there are examples of the latter. Maybe it's just worth keeping the system as is?

I can't imagine the time spent and the huge annoyance it is to deal with constantly returning banned posters. If there is a way to avoid this for the moderating team then I am all for it.

If a guy is banned and wants to return, he needs to be mature about it, sit back and understand why he was banned and ask for a 2nd chance.

[Boblobla]

I am still waiting to see these emails Photon.

[Locke]

Might look a little something like this:

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Locke

Might look a little something like this:

So, Beerfest is a schizo murderer? (that's the number 23 right?)

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by photon

To one degree or another yes, or at least on the other forums of about this size that I visit. They have people that return continuously under new names and such. Some have delayed registration (i.e. a Mod has to approve the new account) and do IP checks and stuff.

But pretty much every forum I've been to has the "banned x who was returning poster x' who was returning poster x'' who was returning poster x''' who was.." problem.

There was one particular guy who I banned by IP on the Manitoba Moose forum (he was several degrees more annoying than anyone else on the boards). He started creating fake accounts and posting at the library. He was so bad, I had to ban the Winnipeg Public Library to get rid of him.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

There was one particular guy who I banned by IP on the Manitoba Moose forum (he was several degrees more annoying than anyone else on the boards). He started creating fake accounts and posting at the library. He was so bad, I had to ban the Winnipeg Public Library to get rid of him.

Notorious Honey Badger?


I kid. I kid.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

There was one particular guy who I banned by IP on the Manitoba Moose forum (he was several degrees more annoying than anyone else on the boards). He started creating fake accounts and posting at the library. He was so bad, I had to ban the Winnipeg Public Library to get rid of him.

Yeah I had to ban a big chunk of the Edmonton School Board (can't remember if it was Catholic or Public) once, whoever it was was posting gay porn and stuff.

We're still getting some nasty emails (trying to fool us to go to see tubgirl), though I don't know who it is in this case.

[MrMastodonFarm]

I want access to the Calgarypuck email account.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Man the internet is full of as much drama as real life.

[kirant]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Man the internet is full of as much drama as real life.

G.I.F.T. makes it very possible.

[normtwofinger]

Quick question. If we go the SMS or call-in route, how does that affect those of us who are outside North America? The phone system here in Costa Rica is so archaic, I need to talk to a real operator to make a call to outside the country. I don't even know if I could send a text to Canada. Just something to consider.

[photon]

Yeah that's something to consider. Most people out of NA though don't go through the effort to register just to troll so maybe not necessarily applicable for some countries.