I blame the ref for that ending. Ortiz's headbutt was, I think, the result of being over-excited. He had Mayweather on the ropes and was landing some punches. The fight was looking like it might be more interesting than I'd expected (I figured Ortiz would look good for three rounds) and Mayweather had shown that he didn't have the power to knock Ortiz out ...
until...
The ref let them start fighting again without looking at them. There's no reason for the ref to be looking elsewhere when that happens - also it didin't look like he'd called them together again.
A win within the rules for Mayweather, but it upsets me because now we're probably going to see Mayweathter-Ortiz II in the spring, pushing Mayweather-Pacquiao back to next November.
Ahh well, I'll be in Manilla for the Pacquiao fight, that's all I care about at this point.
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I agree, that was fair. What was Ortiz thinking by not protecting himself?
Mayweather is an awesome boxer.
literally the question of the night....what the hell was he thinking?
Mayweather is an ass, a doosh, a punk and everything else you may want to label him...but he is simply a devastatng fighter as well, and anyone in the ring with him who's not paying attention deserves what they get...and this coming from a big fan of Ortiz.
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The only way Floyd can knock out Manny is if he gets Margarito's trainer to fill his gloves with cement. ahhahaha.
Floyd is scared. just go look at the guys he has fought. all scrubs or guys past their prime.
Come on man....again i am no fan of the Mayweather group but there is no way your statement is accurate in any way. Yes he has ducked Manny...but beyond that he has smoked every single guy that stood in front of him...and i dont care the weight class or whatever...thats freaking impressive and in the class of all-time greats.
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Neither Mayweather or Pacquiao can claim to even be the best fighter fighting today. Until they fight each other, the question is out there. Pacquiao, IMO, has the greater legacy and - from what I understand - is willing to fight Mayweather.
Mayweather, on the other hand, has been ducking Pacquiao for, what, three years? Undefeated... with an asterisk.
Fight the best, beat the best, then you're the best.
Happiest man in the world last night: Dana White. That made boxing look like the joke it has become. Sad really, arguably the sports biggest star is not only known by most casual fans as a guy who's ducking the actual fight people want (whether that's fair or not) he's also a guy who wins fights with sucker punches. And that was the definition of a sucker punch.
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This is where MMA has boxing beat. MMA has come out and dropped fighters after cheap shots. It also DQ's guys for cheap shots. Here, there is no consequence for Mayweather, who threw one of the biggest cheap shots I've ever seen.
Legal? Hardly.
I take no issue with Merchant on this one. He asked the hard questions everyone wanted to have answered.
MMA would also set the Manny v Mayweather match as well. There wouldn't be any ducking of the fight.
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Well, then you should open your eyes, actually watch some MMA, and acquire some knowledge about what you're watching......ya know, if that cartoon is what "sums up MMA best in your eyes".
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- Larry showed professionalism after the fight when interviews alone however during the floyd interview he lost control and did not respond the way a true interviewer like he is would.
Anyone else just on the edge of their seat waiting for a floyd or fifty right hand when Larry was pushing him back? Might have been the only thing that made me feel like I got my moneys worth.
Unprofessional? Maybe
Best part of the night? hells ya
When Larry said in response to Mayweather "I wish I was 50 years younger so I could kick your ass" I nearly choked on my drink for laughing so hard
Well, then you should open your eyes, actually watch some MMA, and acquire some knowledge about what you're watching......ya know, if that cartoon is what "sums up MMA best in your eyes".
Nah, watching two sweaty, half naked guys rolling around in the reverse 69 position... I'll leave that to you. I could maybe get past that part... if MMA wasn't perhaps the douchiest collection of human beings on the planet. MMA events look like god vomited an Ed Hardy catalogue onto a tattoo parlour, in a Trailer Park.
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Nah, watching two sweaty, half naked guys rolling around in the reverse 69 position... I'll leave that to you. I could maybe get past that part... if MMA wasn't perhaps the douchiest collection of human beings on the planet. MMA events look like god vomited an Ed Hardy catalogue onto a tattoo parlour, in a Trailer Park.
Yeah, the collection of individuals at boxing matches is really at the top of the class spectrum
Nah, watching two sweaty, half naked guys rolling around in the reverse 69 position... I'll leave that to you. I could maybe get past that part... if MMA wasn't perhaps the douchiest collection of human beings on the planet. MMA events look like god vomited an Ed Hardy catalogue onto a tattoo parlour, in a Trailer Park.
Ha, that's great, but personally I couldn't care less if you watched MMA or not......or what you think the fighters look like, etc.
My point was, your opinion of MMA fighting (or how it looks in "your eyes") is about as worthless as a snow blower in the desert, seeing as you don't watch it, and obviously don't have even rudimentary general knowledge about it either.
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Yeah, the collection of individuals at boxing matches is really at the top of the class spectrum
And where did I say boxing was better? They are both carnival side shows. Boxing lost any credibility it had years ago. With this whole ongoing debate of concussions in sports, I would go as far as to say, within 20 years, both will be gone anyway. If you are trying to get rid of concussions in sports, how can you keep 2 sports around, where the end goal, is to concuss your opponent into unconciousness.
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Ha, that's great, but personally I couldn't care less if you watched MMA or not......or what you think the fighters look like, etc.
My point was, your opinion of MMA fighting (or how it looks in "your eyes") is about as worthless as a snow blower in the desert, seeing as you don't watch it, and obviously don't have even rudimentary general knowledge about it either.
I actually liked it back in the mid 90's when it debuted, and it was a no holds barred brawl. That was awesome. More of a bar room brawl sort of feel to it. If I recall, it was simply no eye gouging, no nut shots.... everything else was fair game.
And as far as "rudimentary general knowledge", do you even know what that term means?..... We are not talking about string theory here, it is 2 guys fighting in an Octogan shaped ring, until one quits, or submits. That, is "Rudimentary, general knowledge" About as dumbed down as it can can get. I think it can be pretty much said, you could learn "Rudimentary, general knowledge" about any sport reading Wikipedia articles for an hour.
I actually liked it back in the mid 90's when it debuted, and it was a no holds barred brawl. That was awesome. More of a bar room brawl sort of feel to it. If I recall, it was simply no eye gouging, no nut shots.... everything else was fair game.
And as far as "rudimentary general knowledge", do you even know what that term means?..... We are not talking about string theory here, it is 2 guys fighting in an Octogan shaped ring, until one quits, or submits. That, is "Rudimentary, general knowledge" About as dumbed down as it can can get. I think it can be pretty much said, you could learn "Rudimentary, general knowledge" about any sport reading Wikipedia articles for an hour.
Gah, wrote "rudimentary knowledge" then changed it to "general knowledge" but neglected to erase "rudimentary".
Anyways, I'm talking about you not understanding what is happening when MMA fighters "go to the ground" and fight it out there. There is a lot more to it than "two sweaty, half naked guys rolling around in the reverse 69 position" or "twenty minutes of sweaty dick punching".
When I first started watching it, I'd get annoyed when the fight went to the ground. I wanted to see one guy knock the other guy the "F" out with an amazing head kick, or an overhand right. I didn't want to watch two sweaty guys roll around and hug each other......in fact, I probably said that exact statement while watching MMA at some point.
However after watching it on a regular basis for the past 6 years or so, I've learned much more about what goes on between fighters when the fight takes place on the ground. I've also realized it takes hard work, a ton of skill and a boatload of training to be an accomplished ground fighter in mixed martial arts.
....I've also found it to be much more entertaining when you start to learn what the fighters are trying to do.
Anyways, I don't want to de-rail this thread any more than it has been already. Just wanted to point out that the cartoon you posted while saying it "sums up MMA in your eyes" showed that you really don't understand MMA beyond it being "2 guys fighting in an Octogan shaped ring, until one quits, or submits".
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I actually liked it back in the mid 90's when it debuted, and it was a no holds barred brawl. That was awesome. More of a bar room brawl sort of feel to it. If I recall, it was simply no eye gouging, no nut shots.... everything else was fair game.
And as far as "rudimentary general knowledge", do you even know what that term means?..... We are not talking about string theory here, it is 2 guys fighting in an Octogan shaped ring, until one quits, or submits. That, is "Rudimentary, general knowledge" About as dumbed down as it can can get. I think it can be pretty much said, you could learn "Rudimentary, general knowledge" about any sport reading Wikipedia articles for an hour.
Nut shots were allowed when it first debuted.
And for the rest of the crap you posted it is so wrong and ignorant it really isn't worth getting into.
Back to the OP - Ortiz is an idiot and Mayweather did what he had to. That said, it is an unfortunate end no matter how you look at it.
Had Mayweather lost the fight, I could see him taking on Pac-Man as his perfect record was now gone. But since he won, I really doubt he will ever chance a fight with Manny and the potential risk of tarnishing his record.
