Move over fluoride, here comes Calgary's clean water!

[Canuck-Hater]

http://static.infowars.com/2010/09/i...50-reasons.pdf

[TylerSVT]

Originally Posted by joe_mullen

would personally be much more comfortable with an expert panel opinion than that of our esteemed council when it comes to public health issues. i am not convinced they are appropriately trained in assessing scientific literature on this matter.

The job of elected officials is to represent the people in their constituency.

This is giving the majority of the people what they want. Deal with it.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Many studies even suggest that no fluoride = less cavities.


http://thyroid.about.com/cs/relatedc.../a/flushot.htm

Dentists = not real doctors, right up there with chiropractics.

[Kybosh]

Mikey, I know you think you understand the chemistry behind our daily lives (such as "fluoride" use, pharmaceuticals and even war chemicals) but you really don't. I'm not going to bother writing a long reply discrediting your views because it would be a waste of time. You are firmly set in your ways, but I respect your right to your opinion.

[photon]

And so the airport tunnel is built upon the decaying teeth of the innocent.. see what thou hath wrought!

[habernac]

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Mikey the Redneck continues to live up to his name!

I don't really drink tap water very often but I do brush my teeth with it. I will miss the Fluoride as it is perfectly safe and only costs a dollar a person a year to fluoridate the water supply.

And what name is that?
That I don't like boot licking morons coming up with some phony lie so they can get rid of some industrial waste? That I don't like tyranny?

Read some of the literature if you think it is so great. You have plenty of fluoride in your tooth-paste.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by TylerSVT

The job of elected officials is to represent the people in their constituency.

This is giving the majority of the people what they want. Deal with it.

3 times the citizens of Calgary have voted to keep fluoride in the water. So is it the will of the majority? I guess we'll never know since 10 people decided it for us.

[Kybosh]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Dentists = not real doctors, right up there with chiropractics.

This is not true. A routine dental exam is much more than cosmetic, especially with the x-rays, which are done every 5 years. Optometrists and Dentists (among others) play a key role in general health and the early diagnosis of many potentially serious health issues.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

Mikey, I know you think you understand the chemistry behind our daily lives (such as "fluoride" use, pharmaceuticals and even war chemicals) but you really don't. I'm not going to bother writing a long reply discrediting your views because it would be a waste of time. You are firmly set in your ways, but I respect your right to your opinion.

I am open minded. Enlighten me.

Are you going to tell me about sodium fluorosilicate?

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

This is not true. A routine dental exam is much more than cosmetic, especially with the x-rays, which are done every 5 years. Optometrists and Dentists (among others) play a key role in general health and the early diagnosis of many potentially serious health issues.

Okay fine.

Jesus can't a guy take a jab at dentists around here?

[Dentoman]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

You have plenty of fluoride in your tooth-paste.

Except that fluoride is only having a topical/surface effect .... its uptake into the tooth is a fraction of what it could be if it was there when the tooth was developing.

PS Don't lump me in with a chiropractor ... optometrist maybe ... chiropractor, definitely not.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

But if you really want to help, maybe we could mix a higher concentration of fluoride in your personal supply of water, just to see what kind of sick, awful creature you turn into. Do it for medicine....

But seriously, this is also a human rights violation. Ultimately, it is forced medication.

There are no toxic chemicals, only toxic concentrations.

There's always a need to balance majority rights with minority rights, but in this case I'm with the majority.

[ynwa03]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Check the first one. Check the film.

But if you really want to help, maybe we could mix a higher concentration of fluoride in your personal supply of water, just to see what kind of sick, awful creature you turn into. Do it for medicine....

But seriously, this is also a human rights violation. Ultimately, it is forced medication.

Medical 'benefits' and detriments aside, this is the reason why i don't want this in my drinking water. People should have a choice about their medication. Putting it in the water supply is tyrannical.

[Dentoman]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

3 times the citizens of Calgary have voted to keep fluoride in the water. So is it the will of the majority? I guess we'll never know since 10 people decided it for us.

This is part of my issue as well. 10 people who have read stuff on the internet should not be making this decision on a very important public health issue.
If Druh Farrel honestly thinks that bringing back the school fluoride treatments is going to be as effective, and cheaper, than water fluoridation she is dumber than I thought she was.

[Boo Radley]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

I am open minded. Enlighten me.

Are you going to tell me about sodium fluorosilicate?

No, Kybosh will probably tell you how you can not lump compounds together simply because they both contain F.

The chemistry of fluoride and the fluorine in the structures of Prozac and Sarin are completely different. I will give you that fluoride is released from Sarin when it reacts but the fluoride is not the concern with this compound.

[Dentoman]

Originally Posted by SebC

There are no toxic chemicals, only toxic concentrations.

I'm gonna post this in my office ... great quote.

[photon]

Majority requests something, government does it, oh the tyranny!

*Note that I don't think all issues should be decided by the majority, especially in cases the majority aren't knowledgeable enough to make the decision. Just amazed at the silliness.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by SebC

There are no toxic chemicals, only toxic concentrations.

There's always a need to balance majority rights with minority rights, but in this case I'm with the majority.

Interesting you should say "majority".

Water fluoridation hearings are coming up in Lethbridge and the Alderman on the radio interview said the public has been "overwhelmingly opposed" to fluoridation in their day to day interactions.

Maybe.....it is because new studies and research have come out, and some people change their stance on it, even doctors and scientists.

[mikey_the_redneck]

"New science indicating fluoride’s dangers to the brain and other organs will be presented by prominent fluoride research scientists during back-to-back conferences of the International Society for Fluoride Research (ISFR) and the Fluoride Action Network (FAN) in Toronto August 7-11, 2008."

http://www.scientificblogging.com/th...wo_conferences