Edmonton is No Good X: Up and Down Like a Toilet Seat

[Reggie Dunlop]

E=NGmonton

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Also for the record Commonwealth is potentially in the most run down/ sketchy/ poor area of Edmonton possible. it's literally in a #### hole and is a #### hole. Edmonton can be nice in very select and limited ways. Nothing about Commonwealth lends itself to that.

That's some inception level ####-hole.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Huh? Compared to McMahon, sure maybe i guess. But it is a #### hole. Only incrementally better than McMahon at any rate.

I've only been in 3 CFL stadiums (4 if you count Skydome but it wasn't for a football) and I've seen others from outside but Commonwealth just ain't that good. Look at Regina if you want to see a nice little stadium

[GhostCookie]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

They think any good player on the block wants to go to Edmonton, or that Edmonton has the will power, cap flexibility, and top notch assets to acquire said player.

Everything oil fans (and "media") propose is something that you can't even make happen in NHL23. Every team is always going to retain to send pieces to the oilers, even on contracts with several years left. Every team will be eager to try their luck on what didn't work on the oilers (Campbell, Yamamoto, Foegle, etc.). Every pending FA will list only the oilers as a destination forcing management to do everything they can to make a deal to the oil happen.

Edmonton lost a bidding war where they were the only suitor to get soup, but now LA will or Philly or Nashville will give up their goalie asset and retain salary for....reasons?

They cannot look at the other team and try and work out what another team would want or why they would make that trade. They believe that Philly will do a sign and trade of Hart while retaining up to 50% in a deal that gives them Campbell. Why? Because they are rebuilding and don't care about cap. Oh and also they will get other cap dump pieces like Yamamoto and Ceci. All for a first rounder and maybe a 2nd rounder. Of course, if this is the move that puts the oilers over the top, those two picks are pretty much a 2nd and a third rounder at that point, since they would be picking 32nd.

Like you can't say you will be almost for sure win the cup, and then also think your draft picks are as valuable as a team that might miss the playoffs.

Oilers fans: "We are only 1 piece away from being cup winners, maybe a dynasty!"

Also Oilers fans: "To get us there we need to trade half our roster and get charity from every team we deal with to get players way outside our cap space to win!"

[getbak]

My favourite was the idea that San Jose was going to retain 50% on Karlsson, which would cost them about $20 million in real dollars, and the Oilers would basically send nothing back because they were doing the Sharks a favour by taking him.

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by getbak

My favourite was the idea that San Jose was going to retain 50% on Karlsson, which would cost them about $20 million in real dollars, and the Oilers would basically send nothing back because they were doing the Sharks a favour by taking him.

“Conner and Dri did call Grier and say look buddy, you want to be part of this dynasty story or not?” - Every Oiler Fan

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

That's some inception level ####-hole.

Only have to go to Edmonton once and you know what a ####hole it is.

[1_Flames_Fan]

My delusional Oilers friends claiming once again that Edmonton would have won the cup if they beat Vegas....that's Oilers maths for you. The only formula they need to learn is E=NG.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Edmonton can never be "Almost Good" -- largely because they are No Good.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan

My delusional Oilers friends claiming once again that Edmonton would have won the cup if they beat Vegas....that's Oilers maths for you. The only formula they need to learn is E=NG.

but they didn't, they lost

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by dino7c

but they didn't, they lost

This year was their year. The Kings are going to be significantly better, the Avalanche will likely not be decimated by injuries, the Stars will be at least as good, and Seattle may improve. This year was peak Oilers, it’s as good as they can be with many players having personal best seasons. They likely won’t miss the playoffs but probably a wild card team

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan

My delusional Oilers friends claiming once again that Edmonton would have won the cup if they beat Vegas....that's Oilers maths for you. The only formula they need to learn is E=NG.

As my father used to say,

“Yeah & the bear would have caught the rabbit if he didn’t stop to take a crap.”

They can enjoy their fantasy while squandering the final years of elite offensive talent.

[CroFlames]

Lol looking back McDavid had 153 points, Draisatl 128 and Nuge 104 points and they didn’t even win the division.

Does McDavid need 180 points for a division title? 200+ points for a conference title?

What a team.

[midniteowl]

The funny thing is, the last season, he scored 123 points and they got out of the second round and into the conference final. This season, he scored 153 points and got knocked out in the second round. Next season, he'll probably scores 183 points and wouldn't be able to get out of the first round.

[stemit14]

I have a feeling the panic of Draisaitl’s inevitable choice to leave Edmonton will make Oilers management try to pull a Kucherov/Stone LTIR move next season as it might be their last shot if Draisaitl tells them he won’t re-sign next-summer. Not sure who it will be that they do it with… likely Nurse, RNH, Hyman, or even Draisaitl himself. One or more of these guys will suddenly need surgery in September that leads to them being healthy on day one of the playoffs. They won’t do it with McDavid though… they’re a lottery team without his powerplay points.

They’ll package Holloway and their 2024 first to get someone to fill the gap (such as Laughton, Koneckny, or Scheifele for example) for the regular season and plan on the McPowerplay carrying them to the playoffs.

They’ll even likely double-down on the LTIR strategy at the trade deadline and put another player on LTIR around then so they can trade their 2025 first round pick+ for another $6 million player. They’ll be $20 million over the cap come day one of the playoffs.

Will be even funnier when it doesn’t work for them and they end up missing the playoffs completely. E=NG


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[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I have a feeling the panic of Draisaitl’s inevitable choice to leave Edmonton will make Oilers management try to pull a Kucherov/Stone LTIR move next season as it might be their last shot if Draisaitl tells them he won’t re-sign next-summer. Not sure who it will be that they do it with… likely Nurse, RNH, Hyman, or even Draisaitl himself. One or more of these guys will suddenly need surgery in September that leads to them being healthy on day one of the playoffs. They won’t do it with McDavid though… they’re a lottery team without his powerplay points...

No. A team can't just choose to put a player on LTIR. Players have to actually be seriously injured for this to occur. No one is going to just volunteer to forego an entire season for surgery.

Oh, and Edmonton is no good.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

No. A team can't just choose to put a player on LTIR. Players have to actually be seriously injured for this to occur. No one is going to just volunteer to forego an entire season for surgery.

Oh, and Edmonton is no good.

It’s the one conspiracy theory I buy into a little because it does seem to happen so specifically and perfectly. Players for teams like Tampa and Vegas seem to get healthy or injured just at the right time to fit into the cap and help their team. One day too early or too late and it wouldn’t work. I think it was Vegas last year that placed a couple guys on LTIR a couple days before Eichel was activated. Had they not been injured, Eichel could not be activated. Kucherov practiced with a full contact jersey for well over a month before being activated on day one of playoffs.

At any given time… multiple players on a team could be shut down due to nagging injuries. As for doctor’s assessing the severity of injuries… the player just needs to say it hurts. They aren’t going to make a guy play that says it hurts…. especially if it’s something in their neck or back.

It would not surprise me if GM’s approach their players saying something as simple or innocent as:
“We need you to be a team guy… we don’t want you playing through anything cause we would rather you completely 100% for playoffs and we could use the space on the roster to make some moves and turn us into a powerhouse when you come back. If you choose to play through anything right now you could be letting your teammates down later on. If you’re playing through anything at all I will probably have to trade somebody like XXXXXX.” (a well liked and skilled player). “You don’t want me to have to do that, do you?”

I could see lots of NHL players giving into that kind of pressure/thinking. Especially if they thought it would help them win a championship and if they were secure in their position on the team.

Again, I still think it will blow up in Edmonton’s face either way. They’ll set a record for the largest salary cap overage for a team that missed the playoffs.


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[GioforPM]

Yeah, let me know which of McDavid or Kucherov is willing to have unnecessary surgery to miss the season.

Thing about TB that year - their best player missed the entire season and they still made the POs. No way Edmonton could do that.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Boreal

As my father used to say,

“Yeah & the bear would have caught the rabbit if he didn’t stop to take a crap.”

They can enjoy their fantasy while squandering the final years of elite offensive talent.

LOL - reminds me of my dad's saying: "If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle."

[GhostCookie]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Yeah, let me know which of McDavid or Kucherov is willing to have unnecessary surgery to miss the season.

Thing about TB that year - their best player missed the entire season and they still made the POs. No way Edmonton could do that.

As clearly evidenced by Vegas last year, who had to get cute with the cap because of the Eichel acquisition, and then they missed the playoffs.

Not to mention, what player is going to give up a season so their team *might* have a better chance in the playoffs, knowing that unless they immediately tear it up in the post season and make a deep run, all they are doing is hurting their next contract.