Hockey Canada, CHL settle lawsuit over alleged sexual assault involving WJ players

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Slava

So, I did watch her testimony and honestly there are still several questionable things here. One glaring one, is the fact that they didn't compel these players to submit to questioning until this year. I understand that isn't under her purview, but that is a pretty significant failing of Hockey Canada?

I’m not sure what power they would have had over the players at that point. They can ban them from participation in HC events. But they have no contracts with them or anything like that. If they were in some sort of legal process, like a lawsuit, then they could be compelled, but not in some private matter.

[stang]

https://twitter.com/rwesthead/status...oV5b64_Rn56ARg

https://twitter.com/user/status/1552318784123420673


Rick Westhead live tweeting the hearings

How the heck do you get the tweets to show?

[mile]

Insert the numbers between /status/ and ? sign from the URL in between tweet and /tweet tags

https://twitter.com/user/status/1552318784123420673

[Macman]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1552318784123420673

Highlight the numbered portion of the tweet and hit the tweet icon in the advanced posting option.

[flames_fan_down_under]

One person that Hockey Canada knew about involved in four separate sexual assault claims. Wow. Toxic, inept, callous, secretive and enabling.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by stang;8387291[url

https://twitter.com/rwesthead/status/1552318784123420673?s=21&t=qzvGaCLgoV5b64_Rn56ARg[/url]

https://twitter.com/user/status/qzvGaCLgoV5b64_Rn56ARg


Rick Westhead live tweeting the hearings

How the heck do you get the tweets to show?

Place just this number 1552318784123420673 from the tweet’s URL between tweet tags

https://twitter.com/user/status/1552318784123420673

[bdubbs]

holy #### who is the scumbag part of FOUR settlements? That player should not play ever again.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by bdubbs

holy #### who is the scumbag part of FOUR settlements? That player should not play ever again.

Or coach...

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by chedder

Sport Canada was made aware in 2018 and did absolutely nothing. Didn't notify the minister of sport or follow up with Hockey Canada.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/sport-...2018-1.6002196

seems Sport Canada is useless.

https://canoe.com/sports/sport-canad...8-b8aeee5cf85e

here was Ruest, one of the head jamokes atop our nation’s sports-funding Plinko board, admitting that all Sport Canada does, in particular, is determine and distribute federal funding to various independently run, non-profit, national sports organizations (NSOs).

And that although Sport Canada does indeed have an array of high-minded, righteous caveats for any NSO to receive such federal funding, Ruest admitted his bureaucracy has no mechanism in place — nothing — to ensure, or ever double-check, that any sport governing body, not just hockey, actually implements them.

t was actually stunning to hear Ruest, under pressured questioning, finally admit there is “no mechanism” in place at Sport Canada to ensure its high-minded edicts — intended to prevent bad or abhorrent behaviour within sports circles in this country — are ever actually carried out.

Whether all NSOs do carry them out, or none do, Sport Canada wants us to know it has no way to know.

Sports Canada is not a regulatory agency,” Minister of Sport Pascale St-Onge reminded us all during her hour of testimony. Rather, she said, it is primarily a funding agency that, until now at least, has not investigated recipient NSOs over supposed funding-dependent policy compliance.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under

One person that Hockey Canada knew about involved in four separate sexual assault claims. Wow. Toxic, inept, callous, secretive and enabling.

Every time it seems like it can’t get worse, it gets shockingly worse.

[Torture]

Burn it all to the ####ing ground, JFC.

I mean, at the bare bare minimum, why would you not say "We're going to pay this out once but this is a final warning, if we hear anything again, you're gone"

[Delgar]

I'd like more information as to why Hockey Canada is paying these claims out and apparently not the individuals involved paying claims.

All I've been able to find is the 2018 incident included that Hockey Canada hosted a party and supplied free booze to the perpetrators, who then took a girl back to a hotel room. I can see that being a foundation for liability.

But if some of the incidents involve a player of a junior team and there was no connection to a Hockey Canada event, what is the nature of the liability? It seems like the reasons for Hockey Canada paying out haven't been made public and it makes it hard for that reason to evaluate the questions the MPs are currently asking.

It all seems swept under the rug, which is troubling.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Delgar

I'd like more information as to why Hockey Canada is paying these claims out and apparently not the individuals involved paying claims.

All I've been able to find is the 2018 incident included that Hockey Canada hosted a party and supplied free booze to the perpetrators, who then took a girl back to a hotel room. I can see that being a foundation for liability.

But if some of the incidents involve a player of a junior team and there was no connection to a Hockey Canada event, what is the nature of the liability? It seems like the reasons for Hockey Canada paying out haven't been made public and it makes it hard for that reason to evaluate the questions the MPs are currently asking.

It all seems swept under the rug, which is troubling.

To avoid what is happening now from happening? I.e. keep the stories out of the news.

[Mr.Coffee]

https://www.hockeycanada.ca/en-ca/co...andate-mission

Mandate & Mission of Hockey Canada per below, let's see how they're doing achieving their "Mission Statement" shall we? Emphasis mine...

Hockey Canada believes...
In a positive hockey experience for all participants, in a safe, sportsmanlike environment.

In the development of life skills which will benefit participants throughout their lives. Grade = Fail.

In the values of fair play and sportsmanship, including the development of respect for all people by all participants. Grade = Fail.

In hockey opportunities for all people regardless of age, gender, colour, race, ethnic origin, religion, sexual orientation, or socio-economic status and in both official languages.

In the importance for participants to develop dignity and self- esteem. Grade = Fail

To instill the values of honesty and integrity in participants at all times. Grade = Fail.

In the promotion of teamwork, and the belief that what groups and society can achieve as a whole is greater than that which can be achieved by individuals. I guess group rape could be considered teamwork?

In the country of Canada, its tradition in the game of hockey, and the proud and successful representation of this tradition around the world.

In the value of hard work, determination, the pursuit of excellence and success in all activities Grade = Fail

In the benefits of personal and physical well- being. Grade = Fail.

BoD looks like a group of volunteers from the 13 "member branches"... hmmmmmm maybe time to can them all then since the above mission is (very obviously) failing so many people. Protecting criminals is incongruent with the above mission of Hockey Canada.

[Gaudfather]

Some are suggesting we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg when it comes to incidents being ignored or buried.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1552336510560735242

[Ashasx]

I feel like the person involved in 4 incidents should be named if only for public safety

[Mr.Coffee]

How on earth are the police not WAY more involved / investigating all of this?

This has a very dystopian feel to it. This organization is verging on a kind of quasi sexual assault criminal enterprise / ring kind of thing. Just pay people to settle with taxpayer money all the crimes of your participants... makes sense. And people in this country like to look down their noses at other countries.

[MBates]

Originally Posted by Slava

So, I did watch her testimony and honestly there are still several questionable things here. One glaring one, is the fact that they didn't compel these players to submit to questioning until this year. I understand that isn't under her purview, but that is a pretty significant failing of Hockey Canada?

I am certainly not saying all concerns were addressed in her testimony. I just think she was candid and gave an impression that she was a serious person who was able to actually explain times, dates and events and that she was not in any way tasked by Hockey Canada with anything other than getting the truth.

From an investigation standpoint Robataille explained she made the decision based on 'gold standards' for such investigations that she would not interview remaining players until first obtaining the version of what allegedly happened from the complainant.

Also, with her confirming that she now has the full complainant's statement, and that she is "laser-focused" on completing her mandate, I think there is going to be much more willingness for people to let her have the space she needs to get the matter done.

I think it was a significant thing to learn that she was in regular contact with the lawyer for the complainant for 18 months before closing the investigation and that she described it as normal that a complainant might just not be ready to speak to an investigator.

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by Torture

Burn it all to the ####ing ground, JFC.

I mean, at the bare bare minimum, why would you not say "We're going to pay this out once but this is a final warning, if we hear anything again, you're gone"

Fold the CHL with it.

It’s this garbage why it is insane for a 16 year old to leave their province or even their home to play a sport. Merge the teams that are solvent with provincial junior A leagues for a healthy reset, ending the indentured servitude.

Larger markets can get AHL or ECHL teams if Junior A is to small time for them. They would be getting a superior on ice product with professional hockey.

I also know this isn’t easy simple or even probably possible.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Boreal

Fold the CHL with it.

It’s this garbage why it is insane for a 16 year old to leave their province or even their home to play a sport. Merge the teams that are solvent with provincial junior A leagues for a healthy reset, ending the indentured servitude.

Larger markets can get AHL or ECHL teams if Junior A is to small time for them. They would be getting a superior on ice product with professional hockey.

I also know this isn’t easy simple or even probably possible.

I don't know how it is in Alberta - but they'll just leave home to go play with the powerhouse teams at that level. Heck - they do this in minor hockey around here to go play in Toronto where the best teams are.