A Game of Thrones **BOOKS OFF LIMITS** v2

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

But what is Bran doing as King? He is not a decision making kind of guy. Nor much of a communicator. Now he suddenly will make sure people stop making the same mistakes?

The one point he felt he had to make this season was that Jon needed to know about his lineage. Why did he feel that way?

The person who wants power is the last person who should have it. The person who doesnt is the one who should.

Much like modern Monarchy, they're transitioning to a figure-head.

But I think we're going down a rabbit-hole here now.

[Shazam]

Well I liked it.

If this whole damned thing has shown me yet again, it's that most people have zero memory of what they've watched pretty well 15 seconds after it happens.

[JohnnyB]

So much seemed to come down to the moment where Jon told Sansa and Arya about who he is. Where Bran said "it's your choice", even though so many things with Bran seem to be driven by fate.

It reminds me of a Greek tragedy, but instead of GRRM having hubris as the fatal flaw of his world he chose to have honesty and loyalty to truth as the fatal flaw. Jon is a tragic hero in the same way Ned was - a great man and great leader destroyed by his own commitment to the truth. I'm left with a strong sense that had Jon chosen to hide the truth, things could have worked out differently for all but because of his key choice to tell Sansa the truth everything fell apart for him.

[Sr. Mints]

So that was a decade of Sunday night escapism.

Oh i really wish i had the ability to sum up my feelings on Game of Thrones in more complexity...

Despite my distaste for how rushed this season felt--the finale pleasantly surprised me. It was fairly low key, but it wrapped up the major character arcs about as well as can be expected. So many years of stories, relationships, history, minor characters, etc., etc. You have to wrap it up some time

Like the whole internet (expect the people complaining about the people complaining haha) my big complaint is how rushed the last season was. They just needed more time to tell what they were trying to tell.

As I work through and process this season, I think the handling of Dany and Grey Worm is what puts me off more than anything else. Not that they flipped evil and burned and killed everything, but by how it was basically like a flip of a pancake. Yeah, yeah, i know “you could see it coming,” but it was just unnecessarily rushed .

But I don’t want to dwell on this season. I enjoyed the show a lot, more than any other show I’ve ever watched, I think ever. I know of the prequel(s?) that’s being planned, but I really want to know is what Arya finds west of Westeros

[CaptainCrunch]

I think it would be easy to contain the Unsullied to their lands. They strike me as professional soldiers in the end, they're not going to go to war without a chain of command decision. So basically if no one messes with them, they're not going to mess with anyone else. I would think they would probably not even want to take on a mercenary role. They will recognize the new king as the supreme authority though.


The Dothraki almost need to be wiped out, they're not going to accept farm land. They need to conquer in their mind and keep moving to survive. They're going to be like warrior locusts.


The leader is basically the Attilla the Hun and he commands a undisciplined ravenous hord. The smart move would be to put them on a boat back to their ancestral lands and then sink the boats halfway across the ocean, because they're never going to be civilized.

[FireGilbert]

After sleeping on things I’m still content with the ending but wished we got more episodes to flesh things out. Give us a 10 episode season 7 ending with the Battle of Winterfell, then a 10 episode season 8 showing Dany’s transition ending with sacking Kings Landing, then finish with 6 episodes of Jon vs Dany and wrapping things up.

Also is anyone else thinking this Northern independence won’t go well? They no longer have to provide men and taxes to the crown however will need to defend their borders, run a navy to stop pirates, will no longer have free trade with the other kingdoms, and will likely rely on a resource exporting economy leading to Dutch disease. I’m guessing Sansa will be begging to bend the knee after a few years.

[CaptainCrunch]

I tend to think that they'll be fine without the other Kingdoms, and I doubt that the new enlightened benevolent king would argue against trade deals or even some kind of mutual defense treaty in terms of ships.


I mean its not like Sansa doesn't have a family member on the throne of the 6 Kingdoms.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Lol

https://twitter.com/user/status/1130502568352862209

[Rando]

The twitter replies are so cringe-worthy, yikes! Do they honestly think he meant joke as in bad or joke as in surprise?

It was so unexpected that even the actor who plays him, Isaac Hempstead-Wright, literally could not believe what was happening when he received that final script.

He didn't expect it = Thought it was a "joke". Though we're riding a tidal wave of cynicism at this point, almost comical.

Let's try to read past just the headlines!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Lol

https://twitter.com/user/status/1130502568352862209

Yeah...sensationalist headline FTW.

Hempstead-Wright is satisfied with the ending.

For what it's worth, Hempstead-Wright believes Bran "Three-Eyed Raven" Stark will be a good ruler because of the Three-Eyed Raven's knowing-everything-past-and-future thing.

“I think he’ll be a really good king, actually,” the actor said. “Perhaps there will be something missing in having real emotive leader, which is a useful quality in a king or queen as well. At the same time, you can’t really argue with Bran. He’s like, ‘No, I know everything.’”

[FireGilbert]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I tend to think that they'll be fine without the other Kingdoms, and I doubt that the new enlightened benevolent king would argue against trade deals or even some kind of mutual defense treaty in terms of ships.


I mean its not like Sansa doesn't have a family member on the throne of the 6 Kingdoms.

In this case the North would be a de facto seventh kingdom and the only reason for independence is Sansa’s ego. I guess that makes sense as a smart decision from a benevolent King.

Also does anyone else find it funny Bran’s first act as King is some extreme nepotism?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by FireGilbert

In this case the North would be a de facto seventh kingdom and the only reason for independence is Sansa’s ego. I guess that makes sense as a smart decision from a benevolent King.

Also does anyone else find it funny Bran’s first act as King is some extreme nepotism?

It is, but should it be surprising?

The 7 Kingdoms were always a loose connection of fiefdoms with 'oaths' to unity, but they were never really one Kingdom.

They're like Canada right now, a unified Confederation....except when its inconvenient.

So let Sansa and the North have their thing. What does it hurt the rest of the Kingdoms?

[DownInFlames]

Andy Daly's recap of the finale perfectly encapsulates how I felt about the finale. I will miss his writing more than the show.

https://www.vulture.com/2019/05/andy...ale-recap.html

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Finale sitting at a tidy 4.8/10 on IMDB.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6027920/?ref_=tt_ep_nx

That's because people on the ever popular cynicism train are going out of their way to cast a negative vote to further their completely futile statement. One final time. And now they get to go uncover the next hate fad target in a poor franchise/series and its hardworking creative minds.

The people enjoying it, lukewarm or casually along for the ride probably aren't in a rush to jump into imdb/RT because they don't care that much lol.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

But what is Bran doing as King? He is not a decision making kind of guy. Nor much of a communicator. Now he suddenly will make sure people stop making the same mistakes?

The one point he felt he had to make this season was that Jon needed to know about his lineage. Why did he feel that way?

So Jon would ultimately kill Dany.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by FireGilbert

After sleeping on things I’m still content with the ending but wished we got more episodes to flesh things out. Give us a 10 episode season 7 ending with the Battle of Winterfell, then a 10 episode season 8 showing Dany’s transition ending with sacking Kings Landing, then finish with 6 episodes of Jon vs Dany and wrapping things up.

Also is anyone else thinking this Northern independence won’t go well? They no longer have to provide men and taxes to the crown however will need to defend their borders, run a navy to stop pirates, will no longer have free trade with the other kingdoms, and will likely rely on a resource exporting economy leading to Dutch disease. I’m guessing Sansa will be begging to bend the knee after a few years.

As an independent kingdom she could probably join the kingdoms from Easteros in some sort of economic union with greater overall benefits to trade.

[Yamer]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1130523198469025792

[AC]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

That's because people on the ever popular cynicism train are going out of their way to cast a negative vote to further their completely futile statement. One final time. And now they get to go uncover the next hate fad target in a poor franchise/series and its hardworking creative minds.

The people enjoying it, lukewarm or casually along for the ride probably aren't in a rush to jump into imdb/RT because they don't care that much lol.

Exactly.



I didn't love it, but to suggest it was a 1/10 is a joke.

[blankall]

Is Bran's ultimate fate still to grow into a tree, it are there will Raven's really actually looking to rule the whole time (although perhaps not for selfish reasons). The only thing that I don't get about Bran ruling is that I thought the power of the Raven totally detached you from worldly things. Although I guess Tyrion is doing a lot of the decision making right now.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by AC

Exactly.



I didn't love it, but to suggest it was a 1/10 is a joke.

Aaand there it is.

Yeah, so the smaller collections in the 3-8 range are probably the ones that actually went in to drop a level headed assessment and not a pre-meditated one.