Edmonton is No Good VI: Chia•den•freu•de

[Cheese]

Its a dirty play. Regardless of the fact it was a McOiler player, we would be up in arms if the same happened to Johnny or Mony.

[old-fart]

That little shove? It was a push sure, but certainly not a vicious cross check, and it almost looked like McDiver was off balance as much from the attempted elbow as from the little push.

Nothing to really see here.

As for the game last night, I watched part of it while falling asleep. The parts I saw the Ducks dominated but couldn't finish. The Oilers had horseshoes on several of their goals so yeah, don't change anything Oilers. Keep the status quo.

[puckedoff]

Its a dirty play in beer league and we're only travelling at 1/McDavidth the speed.

[neo45]

Ya I think that’s a major penalty given the distance from the boards. Huge injury potential


Did the oilers seriously not even offer any pushback? What a broken team

[old-fart]

Of course they offered no pushback - they are filled with fake tough guys and pansies. Drysaddle can slew foot MT and then run away all game long never having to answer the bell even though the two of them are roughly the same size (Drysaddle slightly bigger) and both produce the same offence, but MT is vilified by their moronic fans for getting jumped by an AHL plug that can barely skate. Nurse gets drilled by Sammy, then tries to start a fight (even though Sam is smaller he is still willing and a lot tougher than Nurse thought) - Sam is landing punches when the linesmen jump in to separate them .... and then Nurse lands one when Sam is tied up. Chickenbleep move by yet another fake tough guy.

I feel a bit bad for McCrybaby - no one on that team has any heart. He is too much of a baby to stand up for himself, and no one on the team will do it for him.

You want to see real team toughness? Go watch the clip of Sam jumping the Avs guy who hit Jankowski. Turned that game around.

[Duffalufagus]

he should have been kicked out of the game for that. Lol at people in here saying it wasn't a penalty. If that happened to JH we would be getting the pitchforks out.

[foshizzle11]

I can see why they are all up in arms about that, but after the initial contact it looks like McDavid is off balance and Lindholm just gives him a normal, every day, cross check/nudge (not penalty worthy IMO) and he goes into the boards awkwardly. This isn't a major penalty, or a bad/dirty play, that is the reason the ref didn't call anything.

The Doughty elbow, different story. He intentionally elbowed him in the face, not vicious but still what intent is there? Injury and to be a pain in the arse.

At the speed of the game, the refs will miss things. This play by Lindholm wasn't on purpose or an intent to injure. I don't think there should have been a penalty on the play and I am not wearing rose coloured glasses. They do miss a lot and more often than not, they miss them on McDavid because of the speed he plays the game at.

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by puckedoff

Its a dirty play in beer league and we're only travelling at 1/McDavidth the speed.

Yeah... and there is no contact in beer league, so that’s what makes a play like that dirty in beer league.

In the NHL there is contact.

Lindholm is trying to separate the man from the puck, albeit with an illegal play (cross check) but it’s far from dirty. McDavid turned on him. It’s unfortunate, but a result of two bad decisions.

It’s a far cry from an intent to injure.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by Cheese

Its a dirty play. Regardless of the fact it was a McOiler player, we would be up in arms if the same happened to Johnny or Mony.

Agreed. Not a good hit and even on McDavid I hate seeing stuff like that. Maybe not an intent to injure, but for sure a penalty.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by old-fart

Of course they offered no pushback - they are filled with fake tough guys and pansies. Drysaddle can slew foot MT and then run away all game long never having to answer the bell even though the two of them are roughly the same size (Drysaddle slightly bigger) and both produce the same offence, but MT is vilified by their moronic fans for getting jumped by an AHL plug that can barely skate. Nurse gets drilled by Sammy, then tries to start a fight (even though Sam is smaller he is still willing and a lot tougher than Nurse thought) - Sam is landing punches when the linesmen jump in to separate them .... and then Nurse lands one when Sam is tied up. Chickenbleep move by yet another fake tough guy.

I feel a bit bad for McCrybaby - no one on that team has any heart. He is too much of a baby to stand up for himself, and no one on the team will do it for him.

You want to see real team toughness? Go watch the clip of Sam jumping the Avs guy who hit Jankowski. Turned that game around.

Kypreos laid into Lucic after the LA game for seeing McDavid get hit and then going after the smallest guy on the Kings, instead of the guy that hit McDavid, or a Kings tough guy, or even one of their larger star players.

[PsYcNeT]

So I was cleaning out some old stuff yesterday and found my old book of Vance Rodewalt toons (that I'm sure some here have a copy of). Rodewalt was the cartoonist that did Chubb & Chancey back in the 80s/90s, and he was the best political cartoonist Calgary ever had.

Often, Rodewalt liked to showcase Edmonton's no-goodness (Oilers and otherwise) in the Herald. I'll probably scan some more in later, but here's one of my favorites:

[dirk diggler]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Kypreos laid into Lucic after the LA game for seeing McDavid get hit and then going after the smallest guy on the Kings, instead of the guy that hit McDavid, or a Kings tough guy, or even one of their larger star players.

Kypreos is a joke though. he was crying the blues when Jeff Carter hit McDavid, saying why was he doing that with 4 minutes left? Just because McWhiner wont stand up for himself, you cant touch him?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

Kypreos is a joke though. he was crying the blues when Jeff Carter hit McDavid, saying why was he doing that with 4 minutes left? Just because McWhiner wont stand up for himself, you cant touch him?

He is terrible, but he was right about Lucic being a fake tough guy.

[topfiverecords]

There was no penalty on the play because:

1. McDavid interference penalty action is for initiating contact high (partial elbow) to Lindholm instead of just going to the puck.
2. Lindholm's boarding penalty action is a reaction to the contact initiated by McDavid.
3. McDavid puts himself off balance in the initial unnecessary contact.
4. Lindholm doesn't cross check. The push is all glove. Still boarding but see #1, #3, & #5.
5. The Edmonton management and "media" won't shut up about McDavid taking all of this abuse (regular contact through the course of NHL play that is earning him 12.5M) and the referees letting the league abuse him.
6. If the refs let that go on smaller players like Gaudreau, then they have to let it go here on McDavid who is big enough to handle himself and the supposed Generational SuperJesus should never get himself into that situation if he would have just scored from center ice first.
7. McDavid's "interference" minus Lindholm's "boarding" = 0

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

Kypreos is a joke though. he was crying the blues when Jeff Carter hit McDavid, saying why was he doing that with 4 minutes left? Just because McWhiner wont stand up for himself, you cant touch him?

There was nothing wrong with that Carter hit on McDavid. McDavid got right back up and went to the bench as it was a regular hit and I think it's a problem with this league that any player should have to drop the gloves after laying a hit like that on anyone. Any player that can't take that hit shouldn't be playing hockey.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Cheese

Its a dirty play. Regardless of the fact it was a McOiler player, we would be up in arms if the same happened to Johnny or Mony.

Absolutely. No fan of any hits 3 feet from the boards. And should have been boarding call.

My mockery of it was only the excellent Staples title and 'super awesome junior high reporter type' story.

[direwolf]

If poor little McDoofus can't handle the physical play of the NHL, perhaps he shouldn't be in this league. Guys like Pettersson and Gaudreau get just as much abuse as McDavid and you don't see any media guys making a fuss about the liberties taken with those players. Then again, Pettersson and Gaudreau aren't the NHL's golden boy, so I'm not surprised by the constant whining from idiots like Spector and Kypreos.

[Blixa]

Do we have video of that Jordie Benn boarding to Johnny earlier in the season. Or that boarding that former coiler Caligula made in the first meeting this season. They as bad, but we don’t have fan boys media drumming those hits.

[Flamenspiel]

Originally Posted by Duffalufagus

he should have been kicked out of the game for that. Lol at people in here saying it wasn't a penalty. If that happened to JH we would be getting the pitchforks out.

In fact it does happen to JG and Monahan and it really goes unnoticed, its an every day play that only gets noticed when there are 6-12 social media types looking at every play for phantom infractions on the home team. Kind of a benign use of fake news(not as bad as manipulating elections or ethnic cleansing).

[foshizzle11]

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

Kypreos is a joke though. he was crying the blues when Jeff Carter hit McDavid, saying why was he doing that with 4 minutes left? Just because McWhiner wont stand up for himself, you cant touch him?

ya, seriously, I just watched the hit and there is nothing wrong with it. It wasn't even that big. Shoulder to shoulder, hits the ice and pops right back up. Who cares how much time is left in a game, you don't stop playing hockey because you are losing.

McDavid didn't look like he was complaining too much about that hit anyway. If they want to retaliate why wouldn't Lucic go after Carter? I don't that either, damn that team is so weak mentally oh and apparently physically too.