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Old 05-02-2016, 07:25 PM   #541
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So house Umber gives Rickon to Ramsey next episode judging from that preview...
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I couldn't stop giggling while watching the Melisandre scene as she tried to bring Jon back, because all I could think about was this scene:

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So house Umber gives Rickon to Ramsey next episode judging from that preview...
Would it be possible to get spoiler tags on talk about things revealed in the next episode previews?
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Just when I thought I couldn't hate Ramsay any more.... That episode happened. My wife went all 3 year old and closed her eyes and plugged her ears to avoid the kennel scene.
My wife actually left the room and refused to watch it. Being a new parent will get that reaction most of the time.

Funny part was, when they announced the birth of the child she said, "they're going to kill the baby aren't they."

To which I responded, "Well yeah, of course they are, but I think Ramsay is going to kill Roose too." 10 seconds later, he shivs him.

Is the writing this predictable or am I just really good at guessing?
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My wife actually left the room and refused to watch it. Being a new parent will get that reaction most of the time.

Funny part was, when they announced the birth of the child she said, "they're going to kill the baby aren't they."

To which I responded, "Well yeah, of course they are, but I think Ramsay is going to kill Roose too." 10 seconds later, he shivs him.

Is the writing this predictable or am I just really good at guessing?
I was surprised about Roose, but expected the baby
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Old 05-03-2016, 10:21 AM   #548
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Would it be possible to get spoiler tags on talk about things revealed in the next episode previews?
Please. I don't watch the previews so i can enjoy the surprises.
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I was enjoying Roose quite a bit, he was a slow burn villain with intelligence like Tywin Lannister.
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My wife actually left the room and refused to watch it. Being a new parent will get that reaction most of the time.

Funny part was, when they announced the birth of the child she said, "they're going to kill the baby aren't they."

To which I responded, "Well yeah, of course they are, but I think Ramsay is going to kill Roose too." 10 seconds later, he shivs him.

Is the writing this predictable or am I just really good at guessing?
I think some things (like Roose being murdered by Ramsay) being predictable is OK. You want characters to be consistent, and act in ways that don't betray their past behaviour. I think the biggest thing to avoid with predictable plot lines is when the characters in the show somehow don't have the same intuition as the viewer. If the plot 'twist' is telegraphed miles away, and the characters are somehow oblivious to these clues, then it can be frustrating to the viewer.

But for maximum viewer satisfaction, when the twist happens should be a surprise. I thought they would build more distrust between Roose and Ramsay before the deed was finally done. But that would be boring, since we knew what it was building to. So I'm glad they got it over with quickly (enough).

And I assume the Jon Snow and his wildling army will crush Ramsay at Winterfell soon enough too.
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I was enjoying Roose quite a bit, he was a slow burn villain with intelligence like Tywin Lannister.
A major theme in the show seems to be killing off all the leaders from his generation. Roose was one of the last 50+ leaders out there.

Interestingly enough, Little Finger is one of the few left. I also think that Stannis may be alive.
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A major theme in the show seems to be killing off all the leaders from his generation. Roose was one of the last 50+ leaders out there.

Interestingly enough, Little Finger is one of the few left. I also think that Stannis may be alive.
Didn't Roose and Ramsay confirm his death in the first episode?
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A major theme in the show seems to be killing off all the leaders from his generation. Roose was one of the last 50+ leaders out there.
I got to thinking the same thing the other day. It seems to me like the mistakes of the past generation are being made by the next one. Decisions made with incomplete information and/or for dubious reasons, and that could have widespread consequences for many, many years. I don't see a status quo emerging at the end of the story that is any better or less precarious than the status quo was at the beginning of the story.
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Didn't Roose and Ramsay confirm his death in the first episode?
He says he came across the body. Ramsay doesn't always tell the truth though, just whatever makes him look good....

Doing a bit of research I might be wrong though...I just don't like that Brienne would kill a wounded and helpless person like that. Doesn't sit quite right.
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When a show starts bringing people back from the dead, and the show's major antagonist is the undead, I am expecting all characters to come back in some way.

I think Stannis may also be alive, blankall, simply because we didn't see him get dispatched. Also, his will to live is probably stronger than whatever boneitis he was afflicted with at the time. Also I wouldn't be shocked to see him show up all icy-undead as some kind of captain or what have you. Maybe he sails in on a boat during a big abttle scene lord of the rings style.

Maybe someone even yells at the boat about being better late than never right before they are brutally massacred.
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He says he came across the body. Ramsay doesn't always tell the truth though, just whatever makes him look good....

Doing a bit of research I might be wrong though...I just don't like that Brienne would kill a wounded and helpless person like that. Doesn't sit quite right.
She would kill Stannis because she was avenging renly
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He says he came across the body. Ramsay doesn't always tell the truth though, just whatever makes him look good....

Doing a bit of research I might be wrong though...I just don't like that Brienne would kill a wounded and helpless person like that. Doesn't sit quite right.
She executed him for what she believed to be treason, so I can accept that action within her character.
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My wife actually left the room and refused to watch it. Being a new parent will get that reaction most of the time.

Funny part was, when they announced the birth of the child she said, "they're going to kill the baby aren't they."

To which I responded, "Well yeah, of course they are, but I think Ramsay is going to kill Roose too." 10 seconds later, he shivs him.

Is the writing this predictable or am I just really good at guessing?
As predictable as Jon being brought back from the dead?

Tough to try and hide considering how much interest, and as a result of that how many theories are floated that we all hear about. As soon as the final scene cut back to Davos most of us probably knew what was coming in one form or the other.

It didn't help that someone spotted Jon on set months ago.
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Young Ned said the same thing to young Benjen last night.

I knew I heard that line before.
Surprised this isn't getting more attention.

It's not just the dialogue that is the same, it's all the physical actions of Jon and Ned.

To me, that means it may not be accurate/the truth but instead a deception. Was castle black under warg observation?
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Surprised this isn't getting more attention.

It's not just the dialogue that is the same, it's all the physical actions of Jon and Ned.

To me, that means it may not be accurate/the truth but instead a deception. Was castle black under warg observation?
I'd just assume it's because Ned taught Jon how to fight and probably said the same thing to him at some point. Just a passing down of knowledge type thing.
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