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View Poll Results: What will Bouma get on a 1 year deal from the arbitrator (or before ruling)?
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07-23-2015, 02:55 PM
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#541
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Minor players are replaceable, high end ones typically aren't.
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07-23-2015, 02:56 PM
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#542
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Byron makes a more positive impact IMO than Bouma. Bouma is easier to cheer for because he literally bleeds for the team
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07-23-2015, 02:56 PM
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#543
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by codynw
Minor players are replaceable, stars typically aren't.
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Turd contracts for stars cripple teams, a couple hundred thousand to a good role player isn't going to force the team to shed salary.
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07-23-2015, 02:56 PM
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#544
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by nik-
Damn, you really took that personally.
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Well, Byron is one of the more useful players we have. He's one of the last players we shouldn't have qualified.
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I'm annoyed because he went to arbitration for basically having a motor with no production. This makes me wish we didn't even bother to qualify him
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Most guys who are eligible for arbitration are not going to want to get lowballed with qualifying offers.
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Byron is just another guy on this team and we'd be fine without him.
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Same could be said of the whole bottom 6 - Stajan, Colborne, Jones, Raymond. We were just fine without all four, all of November while Byron was playing in our top 6. We were fine without Bouma too, all playoffs.
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07-23-2015, 03:00 PM
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#545
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Could Care Less
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
We were fine without Bouma too, all playoffs.
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We really could've used a healthy Bouma against the Ducks.
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07-23-2015, 03:00 PM
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#546
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by codynw
Ferland is a rookie that was unbelievable in the playoffs.
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Ferland is a rookie who only really played against the Canucks where he feasted on Luca Sbisa (terrible excuse for NHL player) and Kevin Bieksa (old player who is being anchored down by Luca Sbisa).
Byron is a second year player anyways, not like he's a 7 year vet.
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Byron is a guy who's just there.
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No, Colborne is a guy who's just there. Byron is one of our best 4 vs 4, penalty kill, tough defensive minutes guys who can also be an offensive spark when the team goes into those lulls where our top line players can't even break through the opposing team's blue line.
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07-23-2015, 03:02 PM
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#547
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by heep223
We really could've used a healthy Bouma against the Ducks.
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Agreed, but we also could've used a healthy Byron, and Jooris against the Ducks. We could've used the subtraction of Colborne and Bollig against them so bad, despite the goals those guys scored.
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07-23-2015, 03:05 PM
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#548
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I'd trade all 5 of those guys to the IR if we could've had Gio for that series.
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07-23-2015, 03:06 PM
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#549
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/nm
Last edited by bubbsy; 07-23-2015 at 03:09 PM.
Reason: oops wrong thread
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07-25-2015, 12:47 PM
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#550
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Not sure if out yet, but NYR offer to Stepan is $5.2M. Stepan ask is $7.25M
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07-25-2015, 12:54 PM
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#551
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Byron makes a more positive impact IMO than Bouma. Bouma is easier to cheer for because he literally bleeds for the team
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Byron is a 13th forward. He is able to step in and put together some stretches of good hockey.
However until he shows he is capable of capitalizing on the chances he creates, you cannot say that he provides more than Bouma - who does capitalize on chances.
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07-25-2015, 12:55 PM
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#552
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Not sure if out yet, but NYR offer to Stepan is $5.2M. Stepan ask is $7.25M
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07-25-2015, 09:57 PM
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#553
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I really like what Byron brings. Always seemed to get a lot of ice time in 4 on 4 OT. I get the frustration about not burying his chances but I would really like to seehim play another year. He is still developing.
I take him over Raymond, given their relative contracts.
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07-25-2015, 10:04 PM
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#554
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
I really like what Byron brings. Always seemed to get a lot of ice time in 4 on 4 OT. I get the frustration about not burying his chances but I would really like to seehim play another year. He is still developing.
I take him over Raymond, given their relative contracts.
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Really, that's pretty irrelevant, no? Raymond is under contract, Byron is subject to arbitration. It's maybe relevant to a lineup question, but not this topic.
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07-26-2015, 12:07 AM
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#555
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Vancouver
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Predicting that Flames do not require arbitrators settlement with Byron either. Gets Jooris deal.
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07-26-2015, 12:55 AM
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#556
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Really, that's pretty irrelevant, no? Raymond is under contract, Byron is subject to arbitration. It's maybe relevant to a lineup question, but not this topic.
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You are right. We are pretty much locked into Raymond at this point as I think he is hard to move. Not relevant here.
Its hard to see where Byron fits in and what the teams plans are. Like I said, I like him and would like to see him signed to a 1 year deal and kept.
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07-26-2015, 01:25 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Not sure if out yet, but NYR offer to Stepan is $5.2M. Stepan ask is $7.25M
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All I want for Xmas is a baseball style arbitration just to end this madness, actually I don't even think the rangers are lowballing but Stepan is defiantly highballing.
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07-26-2015, 02:15 AM
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#558
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Not sure if out yet, but NYR offer to Stepan is $5.2M. Stepan ask is $7.25M
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Stepan does seem to be one of the most underrated top line guys in the league, if they split the difference I'd say it's fair market value.
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07-26-2015, 05:55 AM
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#559
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by T@T
All I want for Xmas is a baseball style arbitration just to end this madness, actually I don't even think the rangers are lowballing but Stepan is defiantly highballing.
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Really, its that big of a nuisance to you? Either you want to start a WWIII or stop NHL news through a period where there's no other hockey.
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07-26-2015, 09:13 AM
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#560
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Rocky Mt House
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Ferland is a rookie who only really played against the Canucks where he feasted on Luca Sbisa (terrible excuse for NHL player) and Kevin Bieksa (old player who is being anchored down by Luca Sbisa).
Byron is a second year player anyways, not like he's a 7 year vet.
No, Colborne is a guy who's just there. Byron is one of our best 4 vs 4, penalty kill, tough defensive minutes guys who can also be an offensive spark when the team goes into those lulls where our top line players can't even break through the opposing team's blue line.
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Ferland identifying and taking advantage of the Canucks weaknesses does not negate it's value. Are you suggesting this is something Byron could have just as well done had he been healthy?
As for ColbIorne, I like Byron but I take the big guy over him every time. Similar age ( both getting close but still a little time to improve) but Colborne has much higher ceiling IMO and plays a more important role already.
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