Justin Trudeau says marijuana should be legalized

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Either way some of it is going to need to come down to common courtesy. As it stands someone can stand beside your kid and smoke til their blue in the face. Its a dick move and youd be fully in your right to ask them to stop. Smokers should be aware of whos around them and act accordingly regardkesd of what theyre inhaling

Maybe I'm a little more cynical about that. Take the people that vape indoors.

I'd imagine a lot of areas/neighborhoods are going to really stink up 24/7. Another reason not to live in Forest Lawn or the NE?

[Flames_Gimp]

2nd hand pot smoke can give a high, but either way children shouldnt be exposed to it imo

[Drak]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Smoking is nasty, plain and simple.


My concern immediate affects of 2nd hand pot smoke v tobacco smoke. Your mental state isn't altered by 2nd hand tobacco smoke. If 2nd hand pot smoke causes a "high" that, for me is a concern.

Potentially I think so. Wouldn't be nearly the same as direct inhalation from a joint and depends on smoke amount and the bystander's tolerance, but there's always the chance someone directly nearby could be affected a little by it. Having said that, my experience at concerts and other events where people are sparking up to the left and right of me, is that it's never gotten me high, which is disappointing.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Smoking is nasty, plain and simple.


My concern immediate affects of 2nd hand pot smoke v tobacco smoke. Your mental state isn't altered by 2nd hand tobacco smoke. If 2nd hand pot smoke causes a "high" that, for me is a concern.

Yeah I get that. Although cigarettes give you a nicotine hit, I don't know if that is transferred in second hand smoke. While obviously different affects, and the concerns are valid, I personally don't see it as any more or less harmful than standing beside someone smoking cigs. But again, this is all part of the reason to legalize, so we can study and know these things and adjust accordingly. Until that happens, I would agree that it should probably be banned in public spaces, however, I would like if it was allowed in designated smoking areas.

For vaping, if people can blow cherry-scented vapour inside with tobacco, should be no different for weed. Personally I don't think vaping inside should be allowed the way it is. Whether there are ill effects from it or not, you're putting stuff into the air that other people don't want to breathe and that should be respected. You can't tell me that you get every bit of the cig buzz and none of the chemicals are dispersed into the air when you exhale, just like you can't tell me that you absorb all the THC you inhale and none of it escapes into the air.

The bottom line is smoking is unhealthy regardless of what your using. And it should really all be kept out of public spaces because you're sharing it with everyone else.

[AcGold]

Second hand high is difficult to accomplish, you're gonna have to be in a hotbox or sitting directly beside someone with them breathing on your face otherwise it's not dense enough to really do much asides from smell bad to the pot averse.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Here's a question - what will be the next thing that gets people behind it to legalize once this is done?

I was wondering that too. Maybe hash? Mushrooms? I am not sure where hash would fall along with the marijuana legalization. Would it encompass both?

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Azure

If half of the marihuana in circulation were consumed by Canadians (400 tonnes), and if taxes consumed the profits, that would yield an astonishing $2.12 billion in revenue every year, if we go by a value of $10 per gram. I would imagine the cost would be closer to $15 per gram like Flash posted earlier in regards to what happened in Washington State.

It won't go to $15/ gram IMO. You can get it for half that right now. If they over tax it, people will just buy it from a dealer. I think the only way to cut out the black market would be to go no higher than $8/ gram.

If they make this too cost prohibitive or complicated (getting licenses etc) they might as well just keep it illegal.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Wormius

I was wondering that too. Maybe hash? Mushrooms? I am not sure where hash would fall along with the marijuana legalization. Would it encompass both?

Hash is weed, it will be legal too IMO. It is derived from processing the part of the bud that gets you high into a condensed chunk.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by polak

Think of the Children!

On the one hand I totally agree that it's annoying to not be able to have a beer at the lake or something like that but have you ever walked down the strip in Vegas at night while sober? It's the worst.

Vegas is a cesspool of debortuary tho. Go to German if you want to see how open liquor laws work well. As long as your not super drunk and being rude your good. Your legally allowed to bring your own alcohol of your choice when you go to restaurants. It is perfectly fine to do so. Germany is a prime example the way open liqour laws work.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I always tell my girlfriend that I'll start going shopping with her when they start allowing open alcohol in the malls. As it is, I pretty much just lose my #### within like 20 minutes of being in those things.

Target in Chicago has a bar now and allows you to carry it around.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by polak

1 Beer =/= 1 Joint.

Not even close. 1 joint can get 3 or 4 people pretty messed.

Depends on type of strain , size and expeirence of the user.

[Hack&Lube]

It's $10/gram of rolled/flavored whatever in Washington State. That's USD however. As the other poster pointed out, the price point has to be balanced so that it can compete and beat out illegitimate/street/underground products.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Matty, if one inhales second hand pot smoke can they get a high?

Depends if it's in live a small room and theres enough of it could. Outside or in an open concept house very very unlikely unless they are like an inch from your face and your purposely trying to inhale it as much as possible then yes.

My Medical license allows me to use my medication outside of public property any location smoking is permitted. The truth tho is If it is legalized it wont be allowed openly just like alchol.

[Drak]

Wrong thread.

[zyzz]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Depends on type of strain , size and expeirence of the user.

Lol.

[zyzz]

Wrong thread

[AcGold]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Vegas is a cesspool of debortuary tho. Go to German if you want to see how open liquor laws work well. As long as your not super drunk and being rude your good. Your legally allowed to bring your own alcohol of your choice when you go to restaurants. It is perfectly fine to do so. Germany is a prime example the way open liqour laws work.

It's more than you described, in Berlin it seems as if there are no liquor laws whatsoever. People walk down the street with a beer in their hands and cops do not even look, you can buy liquor in gas stations and labor crews buy beers for lunch. Add the legal prostitution and it's quite a sight, prostitutes, open alcohol and cops all in the same vicinity. No violence no nothing, the citizens don't even notice.

Watched little old ladies walk right on by debauchery without a care. There's even nudity in the papers, nobody thinks anything of it. One German told me that's just the way of life, alcohol and sex have been around for millenia and they don't even notice it's there until you point it out. Funny how a lot of the social reservations north Americans have are fabricated for an overly sensitive society.

[Duruss]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Depends if it's in live a small room and theres enough of it could. Outside or in an open concept house very very unlikely unless they are like an inch from your face and your purposely trying to inhale it as much as possible then yes.

My Medical license allows me to use my medication outside of public property any location smoking is permitted. The truth tho is If it is legalized it wont be allowed openly just like alchol.

Medical would still be exempt I suspect as it would be denying a person the right to take their prescribed medicine. I think any change in that regard would be done at the provincial level.

I also do not think there will be as much smoking as people think since legalization means things like edibles and oils become more available. I know I would rather be able to use a THC/CBD infused oil that I know the concentration/potency of than smoke or vape it as it would be much more convenient, subtle and smell less. Well at least I think I know that, I just got a prescription for medical marijuana on Thursday, so I haven't gotten to do anything yet and have never consumed marijuana before. This admission is funny because my parents have smoked the stuff for as long as I can remember, but I still have never used it in 31 years.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

It won't go to $15/ gram IMO. You can get it for half that right now. If they over tax it, people will just buy it from a dealer. I think the only way to cut out the black market would be to go no higher than $8/ gram.

If they make this too cost prohibitive or complicated (getting licenses etc) they might as well just keep it illegal.

The reason the cost will be high is because the demand will outweigh the supply right after it is legalized.

With time I agree the price will come down.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Azure

The reason the cost will be high is because the demand will outweigh the supply right after it is legalized.

With time I agree the price will come down.

I hadn't considered demand might go up, that is a definite possibility. I wonder if it might also be offset by more suppliers entering the business though. I have no doubt that the government will push the taxes to limit, the question is whether they will be smart about it or not. This is going to be a big deal, it will be in the news, people will be interested. They need to justify legalization primarily as a revenue source, voters won't want to see them just giving it away.

It's going to be really interesting to watch this unfold, but I don't think it will be readily available everywhere (legally in stores) for at least 2 years.