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Old 08-28-2024, 11:00 AM   #5481
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Per capita, Oilers fans are simply the dumbest fans in sports. Look at all the people in the replies who think there's even a possibility that rumour could be remotely true.

When you meet somebody out in the real world and they tell you they are an Oilers fan, you immediately know that something just isn't right with them.
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Per capita, Oilers fans are simply the dumbest fans in sports. Look at all the people who think there's even a possibility that rumour could be even remotely true in the replies.

When you meet somebody out in the real world and they tell you they are an Oilers fan, you immediately know that something just isn't right with them.
I dont get what either fans or management think.

He is 28 years old. Hasnt won jack and probably never will because frankly, he's riding McDavid's coat-tails?

He is going to ask for max term and max dollars. He may not get that mind you, but that's most likely to be the opening ask.

Because this may very well be his last Professional contract.

You can take all of the thinking and emotions out of it, the prospect of 'winning' (which is not gonna happen) or whatever else.

Draisaitl, for all his faults, I dont believe to be an idiot. I think he wants his full-bag before McDavid McBolts because without McDavid Draisaitl isnt worth the money and its important that its guaranteed to him before anyone in charge figures that out.
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Why on earth would NSH trade Fabbro and Tomasino for picks, when they only have 6 D and 11 forwards signed, and little cap space?

Never mind the ridiculous Oiler-homer return, NSH isn't trading those guys unless they are getting replacements that they like better.
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It was an honest question since it's difficult to find evidence of something "not" happening.

There's only one pie. If Draisaitl or McDavid is getting a bigger piece of it, it will leave less for other players. What benefit does the NHLPA receive by promoting a higher salary for individual players? Why put effort (which is limited) into something that doesn't move the needle?
Not sure if it actually applies in the NHL, but I think it’s supposed to be some twist on the trickle-down economics theory. If McDavid is worth $17.5 million, then Draisaitl is worth $14.7 million. If Draisaitl is worth $14.7 million, Keller is worth $12 million. If Keller is worth $12 million, Jarvis is worth $10 million. And so on until you get to Blake Coleman being worth $7 million.

I know that’s not an exactly how it ends up working but I think that’s the thought process for the argument that the Players Association would push the top guys to take as much as they can.
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I have a feeling that Drai takes a 1 year max contract and sees how the year goes and then gets traded next summer or signs long term depending on the team performance and what Mcdavid does.
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I have a feeling that Drai takes a 1 year max contract and sees how the year goes and then gets traded next summer or signs long term depending on the team performance and what Mcdavid does.
I just can't see the Oilers agreeing to a 1-year deal, no way they want to renegotiate with Drai and McDavid at the same time. It would be amazing watching them both walk at the same time though! at a minimum Oilers would look fora 3-year deal. Maybe after the trade deadline if they are worried about him walking they may consider it.
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I have a feeling that Drai takes a 1 year max contract and sees how the year goes and then gets traded next summer or signs long term depending on the team performance and what Mcdavid does.
I dont see that at all. And I might be wrong, but I think he knows he wants to cash in his chips while they're at their highest value.

Because if McDavid leaves...and he might, I dont know, but Draisaitl will be incredibly exposed.

And then getting that giant, long contract is going to be a lot harder.
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I have a feeling that Drai takes a 1 year max contract and sees how the year goes and then gets traded next summer or signs long term depending on the team performance and what Mcdavid does.
Taking a 1 year contract at this point in his career would be terribly risky
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Taking a 1 year contract at this point in his career would be terribly risky
Plus, if he just plays out the season and they haven't signed McDavid by then, he knows they are both leaving. He and McDavid are gonna know exactly what's happeneing between them.

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I dont see that at all. And I might be wrong, but I think he knows he wants to cash in his chips while they're at their highest value.

Because if McDavid leaves...and he might, I dont know, but Draisaitl will be incredibly exposed.

And then getting that giant, long contract is going to be a lot harder.
His age is a factor too.

Leon will be 29 on October 27th, and in reality he will be 30 years old once this extension / new contract kicks in. He's not young enough to push this contract out a couple of years and try to get a big deal when he's 32 or 33.

Over the last 6 seasons he's averaged 1.43 points per game in the regular season (which is identical to Mackinnon) and 1.51 points per game in the playoffs which is behind only McDavid.

This is his time to cash in. $13.75M is the absolute cheapest I could see his contract coming in, and it's more likely $14M+.

Draisaitl is also very competitive - and generally seems to have a bit of a fued/dislike of Auston Matthews. I think he is going to want to have that title of "largest AAV ever" and eclipse Matthews AAV, even if it's just for the season until McDavid takes the crown.

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The Oilers Fans/Media, are piling on the pressure for this team. Every soft goal Skinner lets in takes them further from the cup.
That's why they signed Jeff Skinner. So when people shout Skinner Sucks!, there's a bit of ambiguity to take the pressure off. Then in the post game interviews, Stuart can blame it all on Jeff.
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I have a feeling that Drai takes a 1 year max contract and sees how the year goes and then gets traded next summer or signs long term depending on the team performance and what Mcdavid does.
I don’t agree. I think he signs a max term deal (7 or 8 yr pending Oilers or not). Don’t think he wants to be competing with McDavid in the same contract year, he would be far and away the highest profile free agent this year (outside of Rantanen who isn’t going anywhere).
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I don’t agree. I think he signs a max term deal (7 or 8 yr pending Oilers or not). Don’t think he wants to be competing with McDavid in the same contract year, he would be far and away the highest profile free agent this year (outside of Rantanen who isn’t going anywhere).
There could be some advantage to being a free agent the same year… especially if it becomes known this year to all the teams that Draisaitl and McDavid will test free agency in 2026. So many teams would clear cap space for McDavid to make a push for him. The teams that fall short would have plenty of space for Draisaitl. Where as, lots of teams that commit to Draisaitl in 2025 (if he goes to free agency ASAP) would potentially be giving up a chance at McDavid in 2026 - this could shorten the list of teams that choose to commit to Draisaitl in 2025.

I could absolutely see the sticking issue with negotiations being that Draisaitl only wants a 1 year deal. The oilers are terrified of that because it pretty much announces to the hockey world that both Draisaitl and McDavid are leaving in 2026.

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Old 08-28-2024, 12:34 PM   #5495
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The manifestation community would be proud of the oilers' persistent delusion living in their desired outcome contrary to physical evidence.

Let's see how it pans out for 'em, Cotton.
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Good god Oiler fans are dumb. Let's see how this looks when the deal is signed, but it's going to shock these fools.

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"Fingers crossed that the profound pain of losing in game 7 of the SCF will influence him to accept less"

Lol what
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Old 08-28-2024, 01:10 PM   #5498
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Short summer can't be ideal for the oldest team in the league. I'm also pretty sure that when players like Draisaitl and McDavid are considering 8 year contracts that they are taking into consideration what the roster is going to look like four years in and quite frankly it doesn't look good at all.
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If Draisaitl truly wants to win the Cup there is not a worse place to sign than Edmonton. Zero draft picks and prospects coupled with being oldest team in the league, team is in cap hell which will only get worse with himself, McDavid and Bouchard deals.

The team won’t make a first round pick again until Draisaitl is 32 yrs old. He will likely be 35 yrs old by time that player makes an impact. Makes zero sense for him to sign a one year deal, he is going to fleece the Oilers in Darnell Nurse style…. Or he will walk.
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Short summer can't be ideal for the oldest team in the league. I'm also pretty sure that when players like Draisaitl and McDavid are considering 8 year contracts that they are taking into consideration what the roster is going to look like four years in and quite frankly it doesn't look good at all.
Forget 4 years, the roster is in flux year to year. All they have signed long term is Nugget, Hyman and Nurse(LOL).

The roster has to be rebuild pretty every year, and now they lost their 2 best young players and have nothing in the pipeline and no picks. They have to spend picks to add to the roster, and you're not getting large young pieces to add for 3rd and 4th rounders.

So they will have to build the team through free agency, and piece together whatever they can.
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