[GT] US election - It's 2020, what could possibly go wrong?

[Dion]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1325546510843441157

[Dion]

Curtis goes after his sister Laura.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1325437133172006912

[FlamesAddiction]

Kasich, Romney and Jeb Bush have also already reached out to Biden. Not surprising since the Bushes, Kasich and Romney were already critical of Trump. Still, hopefully it causes a domino effect.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Slava

I’m still stuck on Four Seasons Landscaping. It just makes me laugh. It’s maybe the highlight of the entire presidency for me, although there are a number of hilarious moments.

It's so true.

Periodically throughout the day I find myself imagining, Trump on the phone with Rudy saying, do it somewhere nice like the Four Seasons. Rudy being promptly told by the hotel to stay off their property, lacking the imagination to call another nice hotel, and not having the balls to tell Trump he couldn't get the booking up until the point that Trump add to clarify to the world the event would be in front of the decrepit old warehouse of a small business that mostly shared the same name, then them expecting the world to credulously believe that some version of events very close to this didn't take place. And I am just amused be the deep insight into just how differently sane people and republicans see the world.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Good grief. I know we've joked about it a lot in this thread, but it's actually starting to look like the Secret Service will have to go in there eventually and physically remove these a**holes from the White House. And while that would certainly be entertaining to watch, it's just sad that it might actually come to that.

The only reason I can think of them legitimately withholding this is due to the pending legal challenges.

It doesn’t matter that they aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on nor the powder to blow them to hell, but until the last challenge gets thrown out like a soiled diaper, I think they have the (weak ass) justification to withhold signing off on transition resources.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by #-3

It's so true.

Periodically throughout the day I find myself imagining, Trump on the phone with Rudy saying, do it somewhere nice like the Four Seasons. Rudy being promptly told by the hotel to stay off their property, lacking the imagination to call another nice hotel, and not having the balls to tell Trump he couldn't get the booking up until the point that Trump add to clarify to the world the event would be in front of the decrepit old warehouse of a small business that mostly shared the same name, then them expecting the world to credulously believe that some version of events very close to this didn't take place. And I am just amused be the deep insight into just how differently sane people and republicans see the world.

See for me, I go straight to the incompetence angle. Someone got told to call and arrange this “at the four seasons”. They called the first one they came to and it was the landscaping place.

I’m really hoping we get a call transcript or something like that. It’s got to be amazing. “Can we use your property for a press conference? It’s an enormous face-saving play on our part and we just think it’s perfect.”

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

The only reason I can think of them legitimately withholding this is due to the pending legal challenges.

It doesn’t matter that they aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on nor the powder to blow them to hell, but until the last challenge gets thrown out like a soiled diaper, I think they have the (weak ass) justification to withhold signing off on transition resources.

I agree, it's brutal for the transition team but I can see why that woman is withholding........if Trump says he's not conceding and Biden hasn't won yet it would look pretty stupid for your people to let a transition team start.

Don't get me wrong, the whole situation is wrong and messed up, but for optics sake I understand why she's not signing anything yet.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Slava

See for me, I go straight to the incompetence angle. Someone got told to call and arrange this “at the four seasons”. They called the first one they came to and it was the landscaping place.

I’m really hoping we get a call transcript or something like that. It’s got to be amazing. “Can we use your property for a press conference? It’s an enormous face-saving play on our part and we just think it’s perfect.”

getbak posted this earlier in the thread :

https://twitter.com/user/status/1325242917519233024

"I'm just trying to match your energy."

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Slava

See for me, I go straight to the incompetence angle. Someone got told to call and arrange this “at the four seasons”. They called the first one they came to and it was the landscaping place.

I’m really hoping we get a call transcript or something like that. It’s got to be amazing. “Can we use your property for a press conference? It’s an enormous face-saving play on our part and we just think it’s perfect.”

Yeah I would love to hear the full story one day. My guess is that Trump put out the tweet about the press conference at the 'Four Seasons' without checking with anyone, and when staffers called the hotel they were told either a) everything was booked, or b) couldn't do it on short notice. So then they scrambled for something else named 'Four Seasons'

Its so freaking absurd...and hilarious.

[DeluxeMoustache]

^ or more likely
c) declined to hold it , whether due to something like crowds in COVID, or association with his brand

[calgaryred]

Watching CNN and from inside sources Trump doesnt have much legal options for the voter fraud.

So they are looking to try and spin electors in democratic won states for Trump

For those that have no idea what electors do heres an article.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/p...rs/6159795002/

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[MissTeeks]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/08/polit...ems/index.html

President Donald Trump's campaign is planning a messaging blitz to fuel its argument -- unsupported by any evidence to date -- that the President's second term is being stolen from him through corrupt vote counts in battleground states, three sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

One of the ways it plans to do that is presenting obituaries of people the campaign will claim voted in the election and considering having campaign-style rallies to amplify the message, according to two of the sources.

Wait, I think I’ve already seen this episode.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

^ or more likely
c) declined to hold it , whether due to something like crowds in COVID, or association with his brand

Still, the presser was held outside, would that even be a problem? Why not pick the swankiest hotel in Philadelphia to hold it outside of? It makes no sense.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by calgaryred

Watching CNN and from inside sources Trump doesnt have much legal options for the voter fraud.

So they are looking to try and spin electors in democratic won states for Trump

For those that have no idea what electors do heres an article.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/p...rs/6159795002/

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If Biden holds on to win the current states he has a lead, it would require Trump to convince at least 37 electors from Biden won states to not vote Biden which seems unlikely.

Might have been an effective strategy if Biden only had only won the minimum or close to the minimum 270 electoral votes.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

I can only imagine the riots around that country if a bunch of electors gave the election to Trump. Make Portland look like a picnic. For good reason.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Still, the presser was held outside, would that even be a problem? Why not pick the swankiest hotel in Philadelphia to hold it outside of? It makes no sense.

Trump is a competing hotel brand. Why would any other hotel operation want to be associated with him?

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

If Biden holds on to win the current states he has a lead, it would require Trump to convince at least 37 electors from Biden won states to not vote Biden which seems unlikely.

Might have been an effective strategy if Biden only had only won the minimum or close to the minimum 270 electoral votes.

Probably a more effective cheating strategy would be to have congress not accept electors from enough states to get Biden below 270. Republicans would raise official objections to the results from several states on the basis of apparent widespread voter fraud, and then if they were successful those votes would be thrown out. After that happens there's a "contingent election" where the House votes in the new president, with one vote per state. Republicans would have the majority there and could re-elect Trump.

However, I think both the House and the Senate have to agree to any objections in order to remove electoral votes, so Biden would be safe given that the Democrats still control the House.

Kind of far-fetched, but if Trump riles up Republican voters enough to think the election was stolen, who knows what kind of constitutional crisis can happen. You have to think there's a reason that major Republican party figures are beating this drum, even if they realize that Trump is done.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

^ or more likely
c) declined to hold it , whether due to something like crowds in COVID, or association with his brand

The thing is, Trump himself tweeted out Four Seasons Total Landscaping. It's not like he just tweeted Four Seasons and then someone down the chain messed up. He tweeted out the full name.

However it happened though, it's just hilarious. It better be a side-bar story in future history textbooks that tell of the Trump 2020 defeat, with a picture of Rudy behind a podium in a strip mall parking lot trying to convince the world he wasn't crazy and Trump was the real winner.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1325087011464749056

[GirlySports]

Cant see it. All this breaking of tradition and history of governrmt.. for TRUMP? An outsider?

[direwolf]

Biden's lead in AR has dropped to just under 17,000, according to NBC.



However, the numbers in GA and PA haven't changed at all since around 3 pm this afternoon. I assume this is probably because of all the Trump lawsuits in those states jamming up the process. In fact it sounds like Crazy Rudy is filing another one tomorrow in PA:


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/giul...ry?id=74078806

Rudy Giuliani, President Trump's personal lawyer, vowed to file a lawsuit Monday to challenge the conduct of elections officials in Pennsylvania – in statements made just moments after network analysis and projections showed Democrat Joe Biden had secured the electoral votes needed to win the White House.


In comments laced with vague and unfounded allegations of voter fraud in Pennsylvania, Giuliani, speaking in Philadelphia, alleged that the Trump campaign was deprived of the ability to watch the ballots being processed. And he said the campaign would make similar allegations in other states that could lead to a “massive nation-wide lawsuit.”


“We were deprived of the right to inspect if a single one of those ballots is legitimate,” Giuliani said, making an unverified claim that so far been unsupported by any evidence.



“That is unheard of, it’s illegal, it’s unconstitutional, and we will be bringing an action challenging that.”

In several of the cases, judges have used strikingly similar language to criticize Trump campaign attorneys for bringing the cases without sufficient evidence.


The senior attorney for Biden said he has yet to see legal action he considers capable of impacting the outcome of the election.


“The lawsuits are meritless,” Bob Bauer said Thursday. “All of this is intended to create a large cloud that, it is the hope of the Trump campaign, that nobody can see through. But it is not a very thick cloud. It's not hard to see what they're doing. We see through it. So will the courts, and so do election officials.”