Naked swimming event coming to Calgary wave pool

[MarchHare]

Good lord that article is horrible. In my experience (anecdotal, I grant), religious conservatives are far, far, FAR more likely to demand that everyone else must be forced to conform to their personal morals and values than liberals are.

Oh wait, I see that's a Corbella article. Carry on then. She's the Herald's version of Rick Bell, only with slightly better writing skills.

[Duruss]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

What a terrible article.

Very polite way of putting it. My question is how did that disjointed trash get to print?

[SebC]

Calgary is generally right wing. This happened in Calgary. Therefore, it is more likely that it's the right wing that caused the problems.

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Originally Posted by Flashpoint

Because you want to teach your kids that their bodies aren’t something to be ashamed of? Because you want them to not be embarrassed with nudity of themselves or others?

Because you can’t often go skinny dipping in Alberta without freezing your balls off, and it’s F-ing fun.

In light of this quote, can a mod please change Flashpoint's title to "Southland Leisure Centre". I think I've figured out where the flash point is.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by Flashpoint

Put a cop in the parking lot and lobby. Problem solved. Not that most of these keyboard jockeys have the guts to do anything.

It's actually just a wee bit more complicated than that.

[WhiteTiger]

An article in the Globe and Mail that I have a feeling "Naked Jeff" has written:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opin...ick=sf_globefb

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by 8 Ball

I am a conservative, and had no problem with the event. My wife who is Catholic, and goes to church had no problem with the event either. In fact the people I work with who are mostly conservative had no problem with it. I doubt it is a "left or right" thing that got it canceled.

No this is definitely a liberal/conservative issue.

[GGG]

I suspect this is like the Anti-Vax things where pockets of the left and the right both are taking part. If we want to blame something it's Facebook Mom's groups possibly the least intellectual corner of the internet. They are inhabited with the crazies from both the left and right.

[8 Ball]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

No this is definitely a liberal/conservative issue.

Well you're the expert

[CliffFletcher]

This is one of those cases where my personal experience differs so dramatically with the others posters in this thread that I wonder if we're living in the same city.

In my experience, the most hand-wringing, busybody demographic in society are university-educated, upper-middle-class women. The two schools our kids go to have quite different socio-economic intakes, and the more affluent and educated parents are far more restrictive of their kids and more demanding that the schools cater to their anxieties and neurosis over safety. The working class parents at my daughter's school are more hands-off and live-and-let-live.

Authoritarianism is not confined to the right. In fact, I'd say these days it's the left who are more eager to condemn, restrict, and legislate in favor of security over freedom. You won't find a more fussy, rules-obsessed group of people than the thousands of volvo-driving latte-sippers who take part in the Calgary Folk Festival every year. That's hardly a bunch of UCP supporters.

[PsYcNeT]

Upper middle class women: well known for bomb threats and doxxing nudists.

This is the WASPyist take.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Upper middle class women: well known for bomb threats and doxxing nudists.

This is the WASPyist take.

This is a stupid discussion. It's also what's wrong with politics today. It does not make any difference in how to respond to the situation if the political ideology of these people is left or right. It's alarming that the focus is to catagorize these people into the other team.

[PepsiFree]

It IS a stupid discussion. The answer is plainly that people who are socially conservative are behind this idiocy. That includes members of the left and right, if you want to get political about it, but regardless of those politics social conservatives that don’t believe in the freedom of choice when it doesn’t fit their broader ideology should just die or adapt.

Make it about the left, or the right, but this is stupid. You all know what kind of person is behind this, you don’t need to figure out who they’ll support in the next election to figure it out. People need to learn to separate personal ideology from political perspective. As GGG said, it’s sad to watch people try to blame “the other side,” not because the other side isn’t to blame, but because the other side isn’t “left or right,” it’s the socially progressive or socially regressive.

It’s all fine and dandy if people want to strut around talking about how it “doesn’t sound like the UCP to me!” or whatever, I’ve mentioned myself that I feel social conservatism is more common with those who also hold conservative political views, but it’s really just a pointless argument that’s going to go in circles.

I think we can all agree, regardless of who they plan to vote for, exactly the types of losers that caused this issue and opposed this.

[GGG]

The one caveat I would add is that the people against this event may not be your typical social conservative of the Anti-Gay, Anti-Abortion variety. So I prefer the term Authoritarian rather than Social Conservative in this instance given how we currently define social conservatism.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

This is one of those cases where my personal experience differs so dramatically with the others posters in this thread that I wonder if we're living in the same city.

In my experience, the most hand-wringing, busybody demographic in society are university-educated, upper-middle-class women. The two schools our kids go to have quite different socio-economic intakes, and the more affluent and educated parents are far more restrictive of their kids and more demanding that the schools cater to their anxieties and neurosis over safety. The working class parents at my daughter's school are more hands-off and live-and-let-live.

I recently found out that the womens' showers at the U of C are all private stalls. Gee no wonder they get so upset over these sorts of things.

[Frequitude]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

No this is definitely a liberal/conservative issue.

What does this have the do with fiscal policy? Or the environment? Or social programs?

We all associate with various sides of many spectrums. There isn't just one. Stop trying to make this a left vs right thing.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Frequitude

What does this have the do with fiscal policy? Or the environment? Or social programs?

We all associate with various sides of many spectrums. There isn't just one. Stop trying to make this a left vs right thing.

socially conservative people will view this event an as affront to good taste and would trigger "in my day this kind of thing wouldnt be considered". I don't think it's controversial whatsoever to suggest that if you took 100 random people who were opposed to this event a large majority would be people who are conservative.

Liberal vs conservative isn't just about fiscal or environmental policies, but, I'm having a tough time seeing how you don't view this is a social issue?

[BloodFetish]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

Because they like it?

https://calgarynuderecreation.ca/why-be-naked/

Erecreation. New word to describe nudist events, lol.

[CampbellsTransgressions]

It's just NIMBYism. These are people that don't understand that it is their choice to live in a city and that don't understand that living in a city necessitates that they learn to put up with things that they don't like but that others do.

Adult children.

[GoinAllTheWay]

So at the end of the day, the biggest threat to the event wasn't pedos, it was people opposed to the event due to the fear of pedos, threatening to smash windows and plant bombs.

That just makes my head spin.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Authoritarianism is not confined to the right. In fact, I'd say these days it's the left who are more eager to condemn, restrict, and legislate in favor of security over freedom.

Whoever happens to hold the moral majority high ground at any given time in any given place will attempt to exert that authority over everyone they can at any opportunity. Basic flaw of human nature. It's not a matter of ideology; whatever ideology you happen to have, if your side has the ability to try to force it on people, they will try to do so.