Should Treliving Acquire Iginla by Mar 1?

[420since1974]

Bringing Jarome back would be for the nostalgia factor only.
I doubt that he would make the Flames better now or in the future.

Calgary would have to pay him $1.1M for the last 18 games of this season?
I don't think so.

However, if BT could move one of the Flame's "bad" contracts in the exchange, I'd definitely have to think about it.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

Let's be serious, Calgary is not a SC contender yet, as much as it hurts me to say it. Unless by sheer luck we get to play Edmonton in the first round, there is very little chance Calgary can get past SJ or Anaheim in the first...

I think you are badly under-rating this team. I will agree that hey are not a SC contender, but the Flames actually match up very well against top seeded teams like SJ and Minnesota. Not so much the case with the Ducks, but I do believe that regardless of what team Calgary draws in the first round it will be a good, tightly contests series that is likely to go the distance.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Yeah, I still don't buy it. It seems to me that you are just grasping at whatever point you can concoct to validate your opinion that trading for Iginla would be a distraction. If the bolded part were true, then it would hold for virtually every NHL team, no? And as such, I would think that every NHL player ever acquired at the deadline would prove to be a detriment and not a positive contributor to a team's playoff success.

I suppose Iginla could turn out to be a distraction, but I don't think that is terribly catastrophic, since he will simply be let go at the end of the season and the Flames will move on. But if there is a chance that he becomes a rallying point for this team that produces even added excitement for the fans, then I am all for it.

Except we're not talking about a guy that is likely to contribute a ton. Make no mistake, this is not a Raymond Bourque situation. Ray Bourque was still a dominant player when he joined the Avalanche. He was not a passenger that was playing on the third pair of shuttling in and out of the lineup. Bourque was a guy, even at 38 years of age, was able to score 52 and 59 points in his final two seasons in the league. He and Blake made the best pairing imaginable and were key to the Cup win. He was not a distraction because he was still the top defensive player on his team. Iginla is likely to be a bottom line player, getting spot duty. He's more Freddy Modin than anything.

You can think whatever you want, but having a distraction like that is detrimental to performance. Ther are plenty of examples of distractions hurting teams, and focusing so much attention on a player that is not a major contributor to the overall success of the team is a distraction, and likely not worth it. I would much prefer that Iginla went to a team that we are competing with and became their distraction than having to be an issue for our players to deal with.

[djsFlames]

The west isn't what it was.

Flames have won more games than lost against San Jose the past couple seasons.

Minnesota appears to be the class of the west this season and the Flames swept them and deservingly so.

Edmonton will have a fatigued starter (he's starting to show some wear and tear lately) and their team depth beyond McD is still quite poor.

The only matchup the Flames would struggle heavily with is Anaheim, because the Honda Center is still an issue for this club and their team just plays bigger and stronger.

Even Chicago the flames have taken games from in the past two seasons. They're coming down from the peak they were once at.

The Flames have held themselves in playoff contention all while Elliott was playing like a shadow of his former self, Gaudreau was struggling mightily, Sean Monahan invisible minus stretches, Bennett having his worst stretch since entering the league, Brodie with an atrocious +/-, leaking goals every other shift, and Wideman weighing this team down contributing to goals against about every night and possibly more calls against.

ONLY now are all their most important parts starting to click together, while they have rid themselves of a couple weaknesses on defence. And yet they were playoff bubble caliber in the west prior to that being the case. We're at the tip of the iceberg of what this team is capable of and I don't know just how good this team really is when all of it's parts are playing up to their potentials but I don't think we should write them off as easy first round fodder given that they are peaking at the right time and this western conference is about as wide open as it gets.

The west has never been harder to predict, and I think most of the true powerhouses now reside in the east. As a result the Flames have way more opportunity to make noise than they did in 2015, which is exciting.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

The west isn't what it was.

Blah Blah Blah

The only matchup the Flames would struggle heavily with is Anaheim, because the Honda Center is still an issue for this club

More Blah Blah

APRIL 4TH.

Book It.

4-2 Flames win. The Curse ends here.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

It'll be 'win one for Jarome' for literally a day. The local media are going to ask the question once, and they'll maybe ask it again at the start of each new round. At which point, they'll move on.

I don't think anyone's going to be harassing Dougie Hamilton at the Mission Safeway to 'win it for Iggy', but Elboya always surprises me.

Dougie shops at the Midtown Co-op.

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by devo22

for what? The 925k cap relief?!

Thats like $5m in cap deadline dollars

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

It has been "shown" that crowd noise is the controlling element in home-ice success? I don't know about that, and I rather suspect that there are all sorts of other contributing factors as to why most NHL teams are more successful at home than they are on the road.

All things equal, you don't believe that a boisterous crowd can tip the scales in the favour of the home team at a *slight* advantage over the opposition?

So in '04 against the superiorly talented Red Wings team, you don't feel the Flames fed off the pandemonium in the Saddledome and got more of a lift out of their home crowd than the Wings did in Detroit? That every player didn't go out of his way to be physical, do something a little extra in large part because they fed off the emotion of the crowd and city?

I think there's certainly something to be said for home advantage that can be driven by the atmosphere in the building stemming from fan noise. So, no, I don't have a case study with a sufficient sample size to change your opinion on the matter, but I can draw back over the years on teams that have gone further than they should have and I can certainly attribute at least partial responsibility to an amazing fan atmosphere

[peter12]

Originally Posted by nik-

Please god no. Just let it end.

Yeah, but I still voted Yes.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

All things equal, you don't believe that a boisterous crowd can tip the scales in the favour of the home team at a *slight* advantage over the opposition?

So in '04 against the superiorly talented Red Wings team, you don't feel the Flames fed off the pandemonium in the Saddledome and got more of a lift out of their home crowd than the Wings did in Detroit? That every player didn't go out of his way to be physical, do something a little extra in large part because they fed off the emotion of the crowd and city?

Possibly so, but who can honestly say? What I do know is that the Flames advanced through the 2004 playoffs predominantly on their very impressive road record. The Flames were a pedestrian 5-6 in the playoffs at the Saddledome that year.

I think there's certainly something to be said for home advantage that can be driven by the atmosphere in the building stemming from fan noise. So, no, I don't have a case study with a sufficient sample size to change your opinion on the matter, but I can draw back over the years on teams that have gone further than they should have and I can certainly attribute at least partial responsibility to an amazing fan atmosphere

You are certainly welcome to believe that to be the case, and crowd noise has probably been a factor on several occasions. But what you cannot do is assert that crowd atmosphere will always have the same effect on different groups of players. I suspect that home-ice advantage is more a product of familiarity and rest than it is on how loud the fans happen to be on a given night.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

Thats like $5m in cap deadline dollars

The cap relief for demoting a player is also prorated. 40/180 x $925,000 = $205,555. Which is like… uh… $925,000 in cap deadline dollars.

[Gaskal]

Whatever Iginla's faults are, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't handle the puck like a live hand grenade the way Chiasson does...

[bigrangy]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Whatever Iginla's faults are, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't handle the puck like a live hand grenade the way Chiasson does...

He wouldn't be absolutely useless like Brouwer is either...

[SmoggyFlamesFan]

And now all of a sudden, its logical! #bringhomejarome

[sureLoss]

Adrian Dater @adater
Agent Don Meehan says he's unsure whether client Jarome Iginla will be on move tomorrow

[Heavy Jack]

Come on really?!?!

Pick him up brad, give the guy one last chance he deserves and he's earned it and it seems only right to have him do it here.

Hope it happens Iggy!

[CroFlames]

Bringing Jarome back would make me feel like a kid again.

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

The cap relief for demoting a player is also prorated. 40/180 x $925,000 = $205,555. Which is like… uh… $925,000 in cap deadline dollars.

I don't understanding...why wouldn't it be whatever Wideman's cap hit is?

Why isn't the equation:

40/180 x $5,250,000

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Adrian Dater @adater
Agent Don Meehan says he's unsure whether client Jarome Iginla will be on move tomorrow

wtf i already bought my jarome jersey in anticipation for Friday's game. What a waste that would be

[Saint Troy]

Get Iginla in Versteeg's spot on the PP, and profit...