Whether you think Tom Brady is the best or not, there is absolutely no one else you'd choose to start the Super Bowl than him. Maybe Peyton is better at the mental aspects, maybe Rodgers has a better arm, but when it's all on the line Brady is the one you'd want. That certainly means a lot.
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Yeah it can, and maybe that's the case here, but it just leaves it for debate when the guy can be suspended for 4 games and the team doesn't even Skip a beat. It isn't really fair to Brady, but it's something that always casts dispersions for me when the GOAT debate comes up.
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Reason: Loss to Buffalo.
Yeah it can, and maybe that's the case here, but it just leaves it for debate when the guy can be suspended for 4 games and the team doesn't even lose a game. It s. It isn't really fair to Brady, but it's something that always casts dispersions for me when the GOAT debate comes up.
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Yeah it can, and maybe that's the case here, but it just leaves it for debate when the guy can be suspended for 4 games and the team doesn't even Skip a beat. It isn't really fair to Brady, but it's something that always casts dispersions for me when the GOAT debate comes up.
Yeah I changed that. I had forgot about that. Point still remains though. 3-1. That trains keeps on moving and has his whole career when he's out. He's clearly an amazing QB that gets the job done year after year , and it's not his fault he's in an amazing system. It's just my opinion that if he didn't play for New England he wouldn't be in the same category as guys like Manning, Rogers, Montana, etc.
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How do you not just run the ball 3 times and kick a field goal after that Julio catch. There is no incremental upside to passing. A field goal wins you the Super Bowl.
Hell of a game. Had money on the Falcons but glad I got to witness greatness and a great Super Bowl.
Ok, maybe I'm just a youth coach, but I've done it for about 10 years now, I've coached offense and defense, and been a coordinator on both sides of the ball, and I can absolutely say with certainty that some coaches outsmart themselves.
Coaches are fallible like players, and sometimes coaches go against conventional wisdom. Why not run the ball three times? Because maybe your thinking that New England is going to expect that and they're going to stack as many guys in the box as possible. Do I trust my running back to take a beating? Do I trust him to be able to get through 11 guys and not get the ball stripped. If they're expecting that, then why not throw it, I might catch them in a bad defense because they're playing with conventional wisdom.
When Pete Carroll caused for a pass in the superbowl, maybe its because in his mind he was absolutely sure that the defense he was facing would be playing run strong, so maybe I'll be unconventional.
At certain times you have to make unconventional calls, or gamble.
In this case, I'm sure in his mind he thought he would catch them in a run stop defense and be able to get a surer field goal position, or better yet, maybe we score a touchdown, and kill the comeback attempt and put it away.
If a coach isn't willing to gamble, be unpredictable at times, or go for broke then he might as well stick with coaching offensive linemen.
The problem is that if you look at his body of work this year, his instincts have been bang on right for most of the season, why would he go against them now?
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He just did that. Anyone who isn't convinced he's the best of all time after this win will never be convinced.
That comeback cemented it for me, that and 5 superbowl rings.
But I still think he wants a 6th and a 7th ring. Right now he's tied with Charles Haley for the most Superbowl rings. After that the people that have won 6 and 7 (the most) are people who are either coaches or executives or players who have won rings both as players and as coaches.
I would think that he would want to get that 6th ring before he packs it it.
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2017 season opener will cleary be the rematch. It is Afc east vs nfc south on the inter-conf schedule and this one a homegame for Patriots. Superbowl rematch two years in a row
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What makes this comeback more incredible was the Pats also beat the Seahawks 3 years ago. The Seahawks had like a 95% chance of winning in the dying seconds of that SB before Butler picked off Russell's pass.
And today the Falcons also had like a 95% chance of winning when they led 28-3.
And both times Brady and the Pats won. What are the chances of a team winning two games both of which with only like a 5% chance of winning?
You can get lucky once but twice?
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Whether you think Tom Brady is the best or not, there is absolutely no one else you'd choose to start the Super Bowl than him. Maybe Peyton is better at the mental aspects, maybe Rodgers has a better arm, but when it's all on the line Brady is the one you'd want. That certainly means a lot.
Yes. Brady had to make so many plays and throws in the 4th quarter and he made them all. It was not a big play kind of comeback. The guy is just a surgeon.
And to top it off, I may be biased but I think Houston put on a hell of a Super Bowl this week.
Yeah I changed that. I had forgot about that. Point still remains though. 3-1. That trains keeps on moving and has his whole career when he's out. He's clearly an amazing QB that gets the job done year after year , and it's not his fault he's in an amazing system. It's just my opinion that if he didn't play for New England he wouldn't be in the same category as guys like Manning, Rogers, Montana, etc.
yeah those guys played on terrible teams lol
he is the best ever, there is no real debate...get over it
Yeah I changed that. I had forgot about that. Point still remains though. 3-1. That trains keeps on moving and has his whole career when he's out. He's clearly an amazing QB that gets the job done year after year , and it's not his fault he's in an amazing system. It's just my opinion that if he didn't play for New England he wouldn't be in the same category as guys like Manning, Rogers, Montana, etc.
IMO, he's the greatest ever for winning. He will never have the gaudy regular season stats of a Manning or Brees, but Tom Brady has championships. The sacrifice he makes for his team is enough to be the greatest. He never complains to the media that they got rid of Welker or Moss, he just continues to work on his craft tirelessly. TBs offence is one where they will pass 60 times to win a game and sometimes run 12 straight times because he makes the sacrifice and knows what's best for winning. A winning QB approaching 40 who is getting better and he's also the ultimate teammate, that's the greatest of all time right there.
As far as the system goes, when Cassel took over the Pats weren't even a playoff team. In Belichicks first year as coach Bledsoe led them to a losing record. If Belichick could replace him don't you think he'd go the Patriot way and get another younger QB in there? Pats love to get rid of aging players. Great system, greatest player ever.
Super Bowl records set Sunday:
- Most passing yards in a game (Tom Brady, 466)
- Most completions in a game (Tom Brady , 43)
- Most pass attempts in a game (Tom Brady, 62)
- Largest comeback (Patriots trailed by 25)
- Most offensive plays (Patriots, 93)
- Most 1st downs (Patriots, 37)
- First Super Bowl to go to overtime
