2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[JiriHrdina]

Yeah he strikes me as a guy who is a top 6 forward on bad teams, and not capable of being much else. Not good enough to be a scorer on a good team and not well rounded enough to be a two way player

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Yeah he strikes me as a guy who is a top 6 forward on bad teams, and not capable of being much else. Not good enough to be a scorer on a good team and not well rounded enough to be a two way player

So the perfect Oiler then.

[Sylvanfan]

Hudler and Russell is a lot of salary for a team to take. Flame wold have to eat mone to make it happen.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Hudler and Russell is a lot of salary for a team to take. Flame wold have to eat mone to make it happen.

Cap hits go down as those salaries are paid out through the season, teams cap space isn't prorated though. Two million of cap space day one is two million in February.

Teams won't need 4 million for Hudler, nor 2.6 for Russell. We're over halfway through the seasons, half their salaries are gone. For a team to add Hudler today they'd need 2 million, towards the deadline it diminishes down to about one. A deadline acquisition of Russell would only be a cap hit of under 900k. (rough estimates)

[MarkGio]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Cap hits go down as those salaries are paid out through the season, teams cap space isn't prorated though. Two million of cap space day one is two million in February.

Teams won't need 4 million for Hudler, nor 2.6 for Russell. We're over halfway through the seasons, half their salaries are gone. For a team to add Hudler today they'd need 2 million, towards the deadline it diminishes down to about one. A deadline acquisition of Russell would only be a cap hit of under 900k. (rough estimates)

Plus team's have a lot more space at the deadline. According to general fanager, Arizona has 50 million in space at the deadline

[MarkGio]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

gary lawless @garylawless
sounds like price for @FlaPanthers F Brandon Pirri is a third line F and a pick (2nd roundish), likely too high for a team out of playoffs

3rd line forward and 2nd round pick is fair value.

I would offer Jones and 2nd. I think the Flames could make up that loss of a pick by selling Russell, Hudler, Wideman, etc.

[PepsiFree]

If people don't like Baertschi I'm not sure they would like Pirri.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Plus team's have a lot more space at the deadline. According to general fanager, Arizona has 50 million in space at the deadline

No, that's exactly how it does NOT work. The cap hits go down because you only have to pay the player for whatever is left of the season. The cap space does not go up. The way you try to do it, you account for the same effect twice and come up with a bogus number.

[Flash Walken]

Pirri reminds me of Versteeg.

[t0rrent98]

It is believed that Tampa Bay GM Steve Yzerman has inquired about Vancoucer Canucks F Bo Horvat in exchange for disgruntled F Jonathan Drouin.

[Mike F]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

No, that's exactly how it does NOT work. The cap hits go down because you only have to pay the player for whatever is left of the season. The cap space does not go up. The way you try to do it, you account for the same effect twice and come up with a bogus number.

I think General Fanager's numbers are just a different way of conceptualizing the same thing - the $50M is given as the total AAV of contracts that the team can take on, essentially inflating the cap space rather that proportionately decreasing the cap hit, as AAVs are readily ascertainable.

[simmer2]

Originally Posted by t0rrent98

It is believed that Tampa Bay GM Steve Yzerman has inquired about Vancoucer Canucks F Bo Horvat in exchange for disgruntled F Jonathan Drouin.

I'd be pretty surprised if the Nucks' moved Horvat. He is our version of Bennett.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by simmer2

I'd be pretty surprised if the Nucks' moved Horvat. He is our version of Bennett.

[JiriHrdina]

Oh boy did Simmer just out himself as a Canuck fan?

[flames_fan_down_under]

Originally Posted by t0rrent98

It is believed that Tampa Bay GM Steve Yzerman has inquired about Vancoucer Canucks F Bo Horvat in exchange for disgruntled F Jonathan Drouin.

Drouin is an appealing player but that is a big ask from Steve Yzerman. Horvat means a lot to the Canucks and this tells me that Yzermans price might be a bit high for Drouin.

[cofias]

Originally Posted by t0rrent98

It is believed that Tampa Bay GM Steve Yzerman has inquired about Vancoucer Canucks F Bo Horvat in exchange for disgruntled F Jonathan Drouin.

This needs to happen. Drouin was born to be a Canuck.

[heep223]

That would be an excellent trade. As a Flames fan.

[playmaker]

Not sure if already discussed, but what would be realistic expectations if Minnesota intended to reunite Grandlunds ?
I know how many people here tend to hate the "Not skilled enough for top 6 and not tough enough for bottom 6" cliche and for a good reason (in today's NHL). I can't help but I see Baertschi v 2.0 in him.

What about 2nd round pick and a prospect ?

[Svartsengi]

Originally Posted by playmaker

Not sure if already discussed, but what would be realistic expectations if Minnesota intended to reunite Grandlunds ?
I know how many people here tend to hate the "Not skilled enough for top 6 and not tough enough for bottom 6" cliche and for a good reason (in today's NHL). I can't help but I see Baertschi v 2.0 in him.

What about 2nd round pick and a prospect ?

Would actually love it if the Granlund brothers could be reunited in Calgary. Not sure if Minnesota would be interested in Hudler.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by playmaker

Not sure if already discussed, but what would be realistic expectations if Minnesota intended to reunite Grandlunds ?
I know how many people here tend to hate the "Not skilled enough for top 6 and not tough enough for bottom 6" cliche and for a good reason (in today's NHL). I can't help but I see Baertschi v 2.0 in him.

What about 2nd round pick and a prospect ?

Minnesota sends us a 2nd and a prospect for Granlund?

Not sure any team would be willing to send us a 2nd for Granlund. Maybe Minnesota is that one team. I certainly don't think they'd add a prospect but you never know.

I don't think his value is that high until he shows he can produce at the NHL level unless some scout has seen him at his best in the AHL and is a big believer. I would think his current value is around a 3rd rounder if I had to guess.