07-02-2022, 09:51 AM
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#5261
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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Could/would Trump run as an independent in 2024, or launch his own party? Probably not, but if anyone ever had the cult following to do it, it's Trump.
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07-02-2022, 09:53 AM
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
Could/would Trump run as an independent in 2024, or launch his own party? Probably not, but if anyone ever had the cult following to do it, it's Trump.
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Independent Trump would barely get 15%. People for (R).
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Originally Posted by activeStick
It's still early, but if I were a betting man, I'd put my money on DeSantis now to be the Republican nominee. Like, sure, "No PoiNt dOinG tHEse JaN 6 hEArinGs" and all that, but the latest polls since the hearings have started are showing pretty impactful dips in support for Trump. One of the goals of these hearings was to prevent Trump from being able to ever run again. Don't think they'll achieve that technically, but in 2024, DeSantis would be the smart choice with much less baggage. And the GOP is smart, and will see this.
If this happens, it'll be interesting to see if Trump tries to steal the nomination from DeSantis.
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The thing with DeSantis is how people think he handled COVID. Florida was pretty much open the entire time and a lot of people think the restrictions in other places were and are still too overreaching.
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07-02-2022, 10:00 AM
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#5263
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
Independent Trump would barely get 15%. People for (R).
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Would be interested to see polls of how many consider themselves Trump voters vs. considering themselves Republican voters if having to choose between the two.
I don't think he'll do it, but I wonder how many voters and candidates would jump ship to follow him. It would be a real crazy train. Ratings would be fantastic.
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07-02-2022, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by opendoor
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I feel so sorry for this poor girl. Multiply this problem by thousands or tens of thousands.
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07-02-2022, 10:10 AM
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
I feel so sorry for this poor girl. Multiply this problem by thousands or tens of thousands.
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I wish stories like this would matter in the next state election, vote these guys out in Ohio. But unfortunately, it's a story du jour and will be forgotten. The Democrats need to make inroads at county and state levels.
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07-02-2022, 10:17 AM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
I feel so sorry for this poor girl. Multiply this problem by thousands or tens of thousands.
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She has to deal with sexual abuse for the rest of her life and Republicans to force her to give birth too. If she's lucky enough she'll have enough people to support her with the resources to go to a different state, but that's a temporary solution.
If Republicans win the house and the senate and the presidency in 2024 you know they'll eliminate the filibuster to make abortion illegal across the country.
Republicans are finally getting their utopia. These are the headlines Republicans want every day.
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07-02-2022, 12:15 PM
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#5268
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: the middle
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Originally Posted by Dion
Arizona is in trouble. Tonights debate resembled a SNL skit.
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Lucille was right all along
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07-02-2022, 12:29 PM
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#5269
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
Could/would Trump run as an independent in 2024, or launch his own party? Probably not, but if anyone ever had the cult following to do it, it's Trump.
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this would be amazing...split the right
Trump would say the primary was rigged...just like the last two elections and his last primary.
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07-02-2022, 12:32 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Vancouver
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Jesus, that country is beyond f***ed up. I'd say 2024 is pretty much the last gasp for democracy in the U.S. Dem supporters had better get out there and vote like crazy, or they'll soon be living in a GOP-controlled authoritarian, Evangelical Christian hellscape.
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07-02-2022, 12:45 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Dion
Arizona is in trouble. Tonights debate resembled a SNL skit.
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It's everywhere.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1542866096537145345
Republicans are putting their activists in everywhere as poll workers and are setting up a hotline for them to talk to Republican lawyers. 2020 they weren't prepared, they're trying to make sure they are this time.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...tapes-00035758
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07-02-2022, 01:01 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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How can anyone watch this type of politics and have anything but the lowest regard for the American education system?
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07-02-2022, 01:08 PM
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#5273
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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it's a sad day when Liz Cheney has to be the voice of reason. JFC.
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07-02-2022, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AltaGuy
I'm sure he just means Scalia's crap budget-clone, Alito.
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You're correct. Brain fart. Or possibly wishful thinking that one ends up like the other sooner rather than later.
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07-02-2022, 04:46 PM
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#5275
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
How can anyone watch this type of politics and have anything but the lowest regard for the American education system?
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Yeah, Public education clearly isnt working. What they should do is Privatize it. A business would know better how to educate people.
And then they can water their crops with Brawndo. Its what plants crave.
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07-02-2022, 04:59 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Those people are not old enough to be calling the internet, "The Internets".
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07-02-2022, 05:01 PM
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#5277
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Wormius
Those people are not old enough to be calling the internet, "The Internets".
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I dont think they did, rather even worse they referred to all online news sources as 'The Internets.'
Good times.
Joe Biden can get away with that because he's older than the Cryptkeeper, everyone else should get their poop in a group.
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07-02-2022, 05:30 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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Originally Posted by Locke
Yeah, Public education clearly isnt working. What they should do is Privatize it. A business would know better how to educate people.
And then they can water their crops with Brawndo. Its what plants crave.
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I have mixed feelings about public education myself, but there's little doubt that it shapes a populace in ways that produce support for desired forms of governance and desired economic models.
An idiocracy would probably be less cynical than what they have though.
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07-02-2022, 05:33 PM
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#5279
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
I have mixed feelings about public education myself, but there's little doubt that it shapes a populace in ways that produce support for desired forms of governance and desired economic models.
An idiocracy would probably be less cynical than what they have though.
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Goddammit Johnny! We're not going for 'less cynical!'
We're going for 'Peak Cynical!'
Now get on board the winning team!!
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07-02-2022, 08:16 PM
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#5280
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
Could/would Trump run as an independent in 2024, or launch his own party? Probably not, but if anyone ever had the cult following to do it, it's Trump.
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The Dems would secretly send him millions.
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