That is one interpretation. Another is that a good coach eagerly makes use of all the tools at his disposal to evaluate every play. By his ignoring the monitor one could also conclude that he is cocksure and willfully ignorant.
Like I said, it is a ridiculous complaint.
Immediately does after an incredibly deflating goal is scored? Doesn't say a word to his team first?
No, in no world can you call that "good coaching".
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I wouldn’t fire a coach on this, and am certainly reluctant to make too harsh a judgment on this point. Talking about it on a fan message board is as serious as it deserves. The question of if it has any real impact on team performance and how much is legitimate, and it is just a subjective judgment of possible deeper deficiencies that may or may not exist.
What I can say is that I would try to avoid it if I were in a position like his, or any leadership position involving human performance. I am not criticizing him for merely the idea of looking at an iPad, but the frequency and timing of it I would personally try to mitigate if I were in that position.
In fact I could see it being something I did without even thinking about it until someone else pointed out how it looked, then I would try to modify that behaviour.
I am sure GG is a great person, and only have any desire to analyze his performance as a coach. Both the on ice tangible decision making, as well as the harder to judge soft skills; leadership, motivation, emotional engagement.
So I really don’t know if it has any actual effect on performance, but in a small way it wouldn’t surprise me if it does.
That is one interpretation. Another is that a good coach eagerly makes use of all the tools at his disposal to evaluate every play. By his ignoring the monitor one could also conclude that he is cocksure and willfully ignorant.
Like I said, it is a ridiculous complaint.
Having things you just saw with your own eyes replayed, all the time I might add, is not a use of a tool.
It is evidence of a tool looking at an ipad.
I think its fair to say we don't have any real idea how this team was coached on the bench but for me, it would have been somewhat reassuring if I caught a glimpse of GG on camera leaning over his players and talking with them at some point. Not sure I ever did, and I think I saw 70+ games this year.
Again, it really means nothing (what I saw or didn't see) but I know what would make me feel more comfortable about a coach. The reassurance of sorts that he was managing the bench and speaking with the players.
So your line is any discussion is limited to that which has associated compelling evidence?
Otherwise you ought to tell us all that it’s a silly topic? Hah!
Yeah, I am a big fan of evidence. And in this case I see none to suggest that a coach's handling of iPads and video monitors has any effect of team morale.
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So I guess you don’t believe in the evidence that body language has any psychological impacts on human behaviour. Or are you looking for studies specifically related to sports, or hockey? Or only hockey while on the bench between plays? How specific is your requirements for this to be a legitimate conversation? How much evidence is required for you to take this off your ‘must post because I feel it’s silly’ list?
I never said I didn't believe in the impact of body language. What I did say is that there is no good evidence to suggest that this specific aspect of body language—consulting monitors for replays after a play—has any meaningful impact on a team's performance.
If you honestly believe that this is a legitimate line of discussion about requisite skills for good coaching, then I would expect at minimum something to support your notion beyond "I don't think other coaches do it," and "it doesn't look good on TV." Should this be an interview question that Treliving asks of his next coaching candidates?
"After the team allows a goal, do you check the monitor on the bench?" ...
"No? Good. You are hired."
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The complaints about the monitor viewings have always been hilarious to me. Every coach does it, including Babcock but GG is roasted for wanting to look at a recording of a play.
Should this be an interview question that Treliving asks of his next coaching candidates?
"After the team allows a goal, do you check the monitor on the bench?" ...
"No? Good. You are hired."
I would change the question to "After the team allows a bad goal, what do you do to take control of the situation?", as it addresses the issue on hand (how does he demonstrate leadership in moments of adversity?), and not the symptomatic one you seem to be focused on (staring at the screens).
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I think its fair to say we don't have any real idea how this team was coached on the bench but for me, it would have been somewhat reassuring if I caught a glimpse of GG on camera leaning over his players and talking with them at some point. Not sure I ever did, and I think I saw 70+ games this year.
Again, it really means nothing (what I saw or didn't see) but I know what would make me feel more comfortable about a coach. The reassurance of sorts that he was managing the bench and speaking with the players.
This is precisely my point. I will say that I have no idea how players feel about a coach's activities on the bench, and have only my own impressions to draw from formed by my own feelings based upon selected images that I see on TV or in the building. It is woefully incomplete information upon which to draw conclusions. I get why fans feel better or worse about a player's or coach's demeanour, his facial expressions, or public persona, but I also recognize that our superficial ideas formed about these are so frequently naive, premature, or flat out wrong.
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The complaints about the monitor viewings have always been hilarious to me. Every coach does it, including Babcock but GG is roasted for wanting to look at a recording of a play.
It's about perceptions. He does it all the time. It's as if he cant look the guys in the eye because he has no answer. He hides by looking away.
Am I correct? Maybe, maybe not. But there is lot to be said about people that instill confidence and have a presence. GG looks confused and unsure of himself most of the time. It's magnified by reviewing every goal against, as if he never saw it live. Can a player look up and say "yup, this guys will figure it out" ?..nope.
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