[POLL] Calgary Flames coaching change mega-thread—with poll

[Jacks]

Okay, I thought that was just for the Olympics, didn't realize it was full time.

[dammage79]

I believe the Flames are gonna wipe the entire coaching staff. Except the stats and video guys.

[GullFoss]

Sutter - head coach
Regehr - defensive coach
Theo - special teams coach
Iggy - offensive coach
Vernon - goalie coach
Lanny - assistant coach
Oliwa - fight club coach

Could there be any more emotion?

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I believe the Flames are gonna wipe the entire coaching staff. Except the stats and video guys.

Corsi stats guy gets a raise and extension.

[Flacker]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

Sutter - head coach
Regehr - defensive coach
Theo - special teams coach
Iggy - offensive coach
Vernon - goalie coach
Lanny - assistant coach
Oliwa - fight club coach

Could there be any more emotion?

You never go full Oiler.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I believe the Flames are gonna wipe the entire coaching staff. Except the stats and video guys.

Please let it be so!

[SportsJunky]

GG should have figured out a better way to check the replays. Looking down after every play sunk him with this crowd. Hey new coach, get some Google glasses (is that a thing?) and hold your head up high!

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

GG should have figured out a better way to check the replays. Looking down after every play sunk him with this crowd. Hey new coach, get some Google glasses (is that a thing?) and hold your head up high!

Really should be the guy that is Gelinas making those types of calls. If he radios the NC down on the bench and says challenge, he should. Coach should only have to look at that floor tv during the delay.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Really should be the guy that is Gelinas making those types of calls. If he radios the NC down on the bench and says challenge, he should. Coach should only have to look at that floor tv during the delay.

Meh. It's pretty common these days. All the classically revered coaches are also looking down at their iPads on a fairly regular basis. If you're a coach and it's on you if a call gets challenged or doesn't, why would you not put your own eyes on it?

[Ryan Coke]

The top of Glens head while looking down at any critical moment in the game will be my lasting memory of his time with the Flames.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Yeah. I didn’t think much of it at first, as absurd as it looked.

Usually, goals against are legit, and it is time to focus the team. There are guys upstairs in your ear that you have to trust to do their jobs.

But it’s not the iPad or the timeouts, it’s the slow breakouts that give opponents time to set up their defense, the PP, the system, the general lack of compete, mental fragility, you name it. Heck, being afraid to yank Smith. The guy doesn’t seem to have the leadership of the team.

I am sure he is nice and Torts likes him, but there is no way he should survive this debacle.

[StAlbertFlame]

Originally Posted by Ryan Coke

The top of Glens head while looking down at any critical moment in the game will be my lasting memory of his time with the Flames.

This is a problem...looking downward immediately after a play/goal against/penalty against or a major hit against(95% of the time a play that is negative for the Flames)... This looks bad, Dallas Eakins bad. The Flames video employees should be reviewing the plays and then tell the coach what to do. Keep the coaches focus on coaching.

[Ryan Coke]

Yes, I understand why he does it. But from a psychological and leadership standpoint, that physical act is counter to exuding an emotion of calm strength, of ‘It’s ok, we’ve got this.’ It’s more ‘I’m unsure what to do and I’m searching for answers.’

I know that isn’t necessarily the case, and it isn’t completely fair, but it’s like someone who stands with their arms folded at a social gathering. They may not mean for it to send the message that they are stand offish and unapproachable, but it still often does.

Do any coaches do it with the regularity that he does, and at all the most critical times? I’ve never seen it. But either way, it sends a poor message.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Ryan Coke

Yes, I understand why he does it. But from a psychological and leadership standpoint, that physical act is counter to exuding an emotion of calm strength, of ‘It’s ok, we’ve got this.’ It’s more ‘I’m unsure what to do and I’m searching for answers.’

I know that isn’t necessarily the case, and it isn’t completely fair, but it’s like someone who stands with their arms folded at a social gathering. They may not mean for it to send the message that they are stand offish and unapproachable, but it still often does.

Do any coaches do it with the regularity that he does, and at all the most critical times? I’ve never seen it. But either way, it sends a poor message.

I can't believe that this is actually a point of conversation that has re-emerged. There are plenty of things about which to be critical of the Flames coaching staff, but this is simply grasping at straws. Gulutzan's choices about when to check the monitors and to follow replays has nothing whatsoever to do with the team's on-ice performance. This is silly.

[Ryan Coke]

Ok, so just to be clear, you feel body language is irrelevant? And the psychology behind it is “silly”. Thanks for the verdict.

I’m not saying he should be gone because of it, and of course if your coach wins then who cares.

[rotten42]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

Sutter - head coach
Regehr - defensive coach
Theo - special teams coach
Iggy - offensive coach
Vernon - goalie coach
Lanny - assistant coach
Oliwa - fight club coach

Could there be any more emotion?

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[Red]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I can't believe that this is actually a point of conversation that has re-emerged. There are plenty of things about which to be critical of the Flames coaching staff, but this is simply grasping at straws. Gulutzan's choices about when to check the monitors and to follow replays has nothing whatsoever to do with the team's on-ice performance. This is silly.

Checking something from time to time because you think you missed something is one thing. Checking things every time like he does sends a message that he is unable to follow the game from the bench.

Having to revisit events because you didn't get it the first time is not a good look for a leader. Sports or not.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Ryan Coke

Ok, so just to be clear, you feel body language is irrelevant? And the psychology behind it is “silly”...

In the absence of any compelling evidence that a coach's handling of an iPad or his interaction with the on-bench monitor has an effect on team performance? Absolutely.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Red

Checking something from time to time because you think you missed something is one thing. Checking things every time like he does sends a message that he is unable to follow the game from the bench.

Having to revisit events because you didn't get it the first time is not a good look for a leader. Sports or not.

That is one interpretation. Another is that a good coach eagerly makes use of all the tools at his disposal to evaluate every play. By his ignoring the monitor one could also conclude that he is cocksure and willfully ignorant.

Like I said, it is a ridiculous complaint.

[Ryan Coke]

So your line is any discussion is limited to that which has associated compelling evidence?

Otherwise you ought to tell us all that it’s a silly topic? Hah!

So I guess you don’t believe in the evidence that body language has any psychological impacts on human behaviour. Or are you looking for studies specifically related to sports, or hockey? Or only hockey while on the bench between plays? How specific is your requirements for this to be a legitimate conversation? How much evidence is required for you to take this off your ‘must post because I feel it’s silly’ list?