[Rumour] UPD: Friedman: Thinks a deal will get done between Gaudreau and the Flames in the next week

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

IFF, can you cut his Internet access or at least give him some time-consuming task, like reviewing a container of production?

I do need some help with a brief, come to think of it.

[Karl Racki]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Bennett had a far better stats line on the road than at home

Because Bennett is a competitor and the future captain. Guys like Bennett win road games, playoff games and (hopefully) Stanley Cups. Be ready to pay him, not Johnny.

[Gaudreauvertime]

Originally Posted by Karl Racki

Because Bennett is a competitor and the future captain. Guys like Bennett win road games, playoff games and (hopefully) Stanley Cups. Be ready to pay him, not Johnny.

Lol. Johnny not a competitor?

You do know you can pay both of them, right?

[The Fonz]

26 pages in 2 days. Anything new? Not a ######ing thing.

[Matt Reeeeead]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

Quantifiable, you say?
http://flamesnation.ca/2015/12/30/ev...ohnny-gaudreau

Didn't see anything about quality of competition in the article. Do you think it might be possible that when Monahan is away from Johnny he is facing more difficult opponents, and they are more likely to be paired together when they can get them away from top pairing d-men at home?

[Karl Racki]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

Lol. Johnny not a competitor?

You do know you can pay both of them, right?

Depends what you pay Gaudreau. And yes, you can probably still pay Bennett too, but somewhere, sometime, you lose a good player if you overpay.

Johnny is a much better offensive player, no doubt. Kane is much better offensively than Toews too. Kane and Gaudreau are by far the two most entertaining players to watch in the league IMO. I would build a team around Toews over Kane 10 times out of 10 (and I would bet most GMs would say the same). Same with Bennett over Gaudreau for me (though I am not sure many GMs would say the same...yet). Not a popular opinion I know, but everything I have heard about these guys, Bennett is all about winning and Johnny is all about being Johnny Hockey and... everything that comes with that. I don't think he wants to be here, so sad as it would be to lose MAYBE the most talented Flame we have ever had, as Calgary4Life said, its all about the team.

[itsmagic]

Didn't read the thread, so if this has already been brought up, well the point still stands.

Those of you wanting to give Gaudreau 7m or higher should look more closely at his stats for home games vs away games.

There is a wide disparity in the stats that suggests his contributions to the success of the team while on enemy ice isn't helping his case.

I understand completely why the Flames management team is holding firm on their side of the negotiations.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by itsmagic

Didn't read the thread, so if this has already been brought up, well the point still stands.

Those of you wanting to give Gaudreau 7m or higher should look more closely at his stats for home games vs away games.

There is a wide disparity in the stats that suggests his contributions to the success of the team while on enemy ice isn't helping his case.

I understand completely why the Flames management team is holding firm on their side of the negotiations.

Yeah must have been pure accident he finished 6th in the league for scoring. Let's tire kick over home and away stats.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

Lol. Johnny not a competitor?

You do know you can pay both of them, right?

Troll is using KISS.....but keeping it simple doesn't apply here. You got a salary cap. It's not about paying just both but you know that. Or you wouldn't bait this crew like this. Keep going.

[smiggy77]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

26 pages in 2 days. Anything new? Not a ######ing thing.

lol thank you for saving me time from reading up on what i missed

[blender]

Originally Posted by itsmagic

Didn't read the thread, so if this has already been brought up, well the point still stands.

Haven't read much of the forum. That has been brought up in many threads.

[itsmagic]

Yeah...forgive me for enjoying life rather than spending my time on Calgary Puck.

[Point Blank]

Originally Posted by itsmagic

Yeah...forgive me for enjoying life rather than spending my time on Calgary Puck.

Don't let the door hit you on your way out

[hockey.modern]

I'll update the title if something minor happens or there is actually new "news". If it's major news, I'm sure a new thread will be posted by SureLoss right after it happens.

[Samonadreau]

Kucherov
Ristolainen
Trouba
Lindholm

Still all need to be signed so this may just be a new norm in the cap world we live in. We're not the only ones which doesn't mean were not allowed to speculate and even expect the worst but it does put things in perspective. The deal will get done.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Karl Racki

Depends what you pay Gaudreau. And yes, you can probably still pay Bennett too, but somewhere, sometime, you lose a good player if you overpay.

Johnny is a much better offensive player, no doubt. Kane is much better offensively than Toews too. Kane and Gaudreau are by far the two most entertaining players to watch in the league IMO. I would build a team around Toews over Kane 10 times out of 10 (and I would bet most GMs would say the same). Same with Bennett over Gaudreau for me (though I am not sure many GMs would say the same...yet). Not a popular opinion I know, but everything I have heard about these guys, Bennett is all about winning and Johnny is all about being Johnny Hockey and... everything that comes with that. I don't think he wants to be here, so sad as it would be to lose MAYBE the most talented Flame we have ever had, as Calgary4Life said, its all about the team.

One can't build a military with just infantry and expect to win a war, you need snipers too. Yes, Bennett has some jam to his game but he has a long way to go to build a resume on winning and clutch play to even be mentioned in the same breath as Johnny.

[Gaudreauvertime]

Originally Posted by Karl Racki

Depends what you pay Gaudreau. And yes, you can probably still pay Bennett too, but somewhere, sometime, you lose a good player if you overpay.

Johnny is a much better offensive player, no doubt. Kane is much better offensively than Toews too. Kane and Gaudreau are by far the two most entertaining players to watch in the league IMO. I would build a team around Toews over Kane 10 times out of 10 (and I would bet most GMs would say the same). Same with Bennett over Gaudreau for me (though I am not sure many GMs would say the same...yet). Not a popular opinion I know, but everything I have heard about these guys, Bennett is all about winning and Johnny is all about being Johnny Hockey and... everything that comes with that. I don't think he wants to be here, so sad as it would be to lose MAYBE the most talented Flame we have ever had, as Calgary4Life said, its all about the team.

Where did you get the impression that Johnny is not all about winning?

USHL Championship
NCAA Championship
WJC Championships
Our playoff MVP as a rookie

By all accounts, he is hyper competitive and a big time big game player.
Where are you coming up with that?

[Gaudreauvertime]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

Troll is using KISS.....but keeping it simple doesn't apply here. You got a salary cap. It's not about paying just both but you know that. Or you wouldn't bait this crew like this. Keep going.

I'm using KISS? The guy I quoted literally said you save your money to pay Bennett, not Gaudreau.

Bennett is my 2nd favorite Flame, and I really hope he breaks out in a big way and we can justify giving him close to Monahan money. A young core of Gaudreau (7.5), Monahan (6.4), and Bennett (~6) would be tremendous value for the next 7 years. That's 19.4 locked up in 2 star centers and a perennial art ross contender.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

Where did you get the impression that Johnny is not all about winning?

USHL Championship
NCAA Championship
WJC Championships
Our playoff MVP as a rookie

By all accounts, he is hyper competitive and a big time big game player.
Where are you coming up with that?

you missed some of Johnnys resume I was talking about.

[Husky]

Really surprised there hadnt been more chatter ipdates by media of whats going on.