2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by CF84

I've heard that CP will soon be placing Spurs on unconditional waivers for the purpose of contract termination.

In case any advice is needed for an eventual new name upon CP re-entry: Spurs+Yikes=Spikes (pretty awesome)

We could just send him down to the minors. I think he might do well as a defensive center of attention on Reddit Calgary Flames.

[Monahammer]

It's weird because kicking a dead horse applies literally here but not figuratively; there's plenty of juice left in the corpse but we are essentially kicking a pile of fetid waste.

[Madman]

Originally Posted by Spurs

I don't like the direction the Flames are taking so why would I have posts praising a direction that I don't like?

When something positive happens I will gladly post all about it.

Edit:

Not sure if it is positive enough for you but with the Toffoli deal I said the deal was fair value, I just preferred a pick over the player, defended Honzek when people compared him to the Jankowski/Smith draft picks and other bad picks in the Flames past. If all I cared about was negative, negative, negative those are two easy spots for me to have gone the other way on.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Any trade rumours or speculation?

Already tried lol

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

He said the organization strives to be mediocre. I will question anyone why they would want to follow a team they think strives to always be mediocre. If you can explain to me why someone who actually likes the team would have that view please enlighten me. I don't crap on people having a different opinion, when it's an obvious troll job gumming up the thread I will call that #### out all day.

My post wasn’t meant as a defence to trolls.

I agree that the Flames don’t strive to be mediocre, but they are more concerned about being a bubble team than doing what is required to win a cup. That being, a deep rebuild.

Now that may make business sense, and Edwards is first and foremost a business leader.

But my preference is a complete rebuild.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

My post wasn’t meant as a defence to trolls.

I agree that the Flames don’t strive to be mediocre, but they are more concerned about being a bubble team than doing what is required to win a cup. That being, a deep rebuild.

Now that may make business sense, and Edwards is first and foremost a business leader.

But my preference is a complete rebuild.

As general widespread apathy continues to build, it seems like long term, the perpetual pursuit of mediocrity doesn't even make business sense.

[Jason14h]

Even without the apathy the “strategy” of mediocracy doesn’t make sense / hasn’t paid off

The revenue from missed playoffs and short playoffs runs in the last decade trump what would have been lost from rebuild (assuming it was a successful rebuild which isn’t guaranteed)

However , the Flames do not , on any level , strive for mediocracy or being a bubble team and “just getting in”

Don’t confused incompetence for malice

[traptor]

Wheeler put out a top 50 prospects rankings.

Flames had one player on the list, coronato at #39.
Eduard sale came at #38 and Liam ohgren came at #40

Here's part of his writeup.

"One of the best players in college hockey for my money last season (after he was one of the best forwards at the summer world juniors in Edmonton for me … after he led Harvard in goals and points as a freshman … after he won the USHL’s forward of the year award … you get the point), I think Coronato is ready for full-time NHL duty this fall.

Coronato’s one of those rare forwards who is defined as much by his scoring touch around the slot as he is by his work ethic. There has never been any questioning of his effort level or his ability to make something happen in the home-plate area. He’s a determined, competitive player with the small-area skill package, detail and skating (he’s got good speed, for sure) needed to play that kind of game. He’s also got rare spatial awareness which helps him understand where he is in relation to pressure and play off of it.

And then he’s got a hard, quick release which rattles off of the heel of his blade and great feel around the net. He’s always in the guts of the ice. He’ll force turnovers on the forecheck. He doesn’t stop working. He’s got slick hands, especially moving laterally. Increasingly, he looks dangerous in transition with the puck. He’s also got great poise in possession inside the offensive zone.

There’s a belief among many scouts and folks around the USHL and NCAA that even if he doesn’t become a dynamic, top-of-the-lineup guy, his floor bottoms out as a diligent, hardworking middle-six scorer. That’s a darn good player. I think he’s got at least a chance to be more than that, too. He’s an impressive player who can play it any way you’d like and could have value on both special teams at the next level.
"

[Bingo]

Yeah they made a bet on a core that wasn't good enough.

Some solid regular season teams proved they weren't completely lost in their assessment, but some players didn't have their games translate well to the playoffs, and another core piece was ravaged with injuries.

[BeltlineFan]

Originally Posted by traptor

Wheeler put out a top 50 prospects rankings.

Flames had one player on the list, coronato at #39.
Eduard sale came at #39 and Liam ohgren came at #40

Just to add to this, he has 77 honourable mentions that include Honzek, Pelletier, Morin, and Zary.

I think he makes a separate list for goalies.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Yeah Wheeler always does goalies as a distinct list.

[kyuss275]

Eklund saying sabres and islanders are in on Backlund. Yes I know it’s Eklund , but after reading the last 4 pages of this thread , it’s better than nothing.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Backlund for Krebs. D-U-N ,DUN.

[CliffFletcher]

Sabres make zero sense. They have Thompson, Cozens, Mittlestadt, Krebs, and Jost down the middle.

Eklund should at least take the time to look at a depth chart before he makes this stuff up.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Sabres make zero sense. They have Thompson, Cozens, Mittlestadt, Krebs, and Jost down the middle.

Eklund should at least take the time to look at a depth chart before he makes this stuff up.

Not arguing but that line up didn't help last year maybe the ownership group sees it the same way?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Sabres make zero sense. They have Thompson, Cozens, Mittlestadt, Krebs, and Jost down the middle.

Eklund should at least take the time to look at a depth chart before he makes this stuff up.

Thompson/Cozens are an excellent 1-2.
And Krebs should be the 3, but if they are looking to kick open their contention window (as they should) I could see them wanting a guy like Backlund.
Mittlestadt/Jost can't handle that type of workload.

Backlund would stabilize a lot of them and give them a real strong line-up down the middle. Again, I think they were hoping Krebs was that guy for them, but perhaps they are less sure now.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Thompson/Cozens are an excellent 1-2.
And Krebs should be the 3, but if they are looking to kick open their contention window (as they should) I could see them wanting a guy like Backlund.
Mittlestadt/Jost can't handle that type of workload.

Backlund would stabilize a lot of them and give them a real strong line-up down the middle. Again, I think they were hoping Krebs was that guy for them, but perhaps they are less sure now.

I guess with Quinn down long-term they might be moving Mittlestadt to the wing and they don’t think Krebs can handle #3C duty. The Sabres have some great prospects, so I’d be happy if they could find a match with the Flames. It just doesn’t strike me as a team looking for a rental C.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Sabres make zero sense. They have Thompson, Cozens, Mittlestadt, Krebs, and Jost down the middle.

Eklund should at least take the time to look at a depth chart before he makes this stuff up.

Every single one of those players listed have played wing before. And none are nearly as good as Backlund defensively.

If they want to neutralize Matthews/Tavares, Larkin, Stutzle, Point, Stamkos, then Backlund is a great option to look at.

Backlund probably has to wait a season to go to a contender though haha. I agree that it doesn’t make much sense to go after someone without term though. Players aren’t exactly anxiously looking to be a Sabre.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I guess with Quinn down long-term they might be moving Mittlestadt to the wing and they don’t think Krebs can handle #3C duty. The Sabres have some great prospects, so I’d be happy if they could find a match with the Flames. It just doesn’t strike me as a team looking for a rental C.

And you may be right.
But they've been out 12 years. They need to start doing something with all that prospect capital. I think they have a lot of skill and offense but need to address team defense and goaltending desperately.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Sabres make zero sense. They have Thompson, Cozens, Mittlestadt, Krebs, and Jost down the middle.

Eklund should at least take the time to look at a depth chart before he makes this stuff up.

Originally Posted by Fan69

Not arguing but that line up didn't help last year maybe the ownership group sees it the same way?

No, the issue is we're rejuvenating the old "post Eklund rumours, understand that he's a complete fraud, but still give legitimacy to the rumours anyways" thing that used to plague the board back in the day.

It's actually crazy that this came back, I thought he was long gone from hockey talking circles. Feels like just this summer he's making a comeback? Or was he posting all these years and fans had just successfully blocked him out of conversations?