[PGT] Flames lose 4-2, trail series 2-1

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by Inferno

Especially when Dallas got away with worse after that. Either you call one of those too or you don't call anything and let the teams play. And it's not like the penalty that was called prevented a scoring chance either.

He got more shin pad than anything else and your going to put a team down a man in a 2 2 hockey game with under 10 left, play didn't even negate a scoring chance. That was a joke.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by AC

From r/hockey:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1523162979964915712

Not ideal.

I think Gaudreau goes east if the Flames lose. He can get that big money contract and live in obscurity, compared to the high pressure environment in Calgary that he's not able to handle. Maybe he can pull a Phil Kessel and find room on an established contender where he doesn't have to be the main guy, though he'd probably have to leave a lot of money on the table in that situation

[gboom]

I’ve been a die hard flames fan since they came to Calgary, there’s only 2 possible outcomes of this series, flames win in 6 or they lose in 5, 6 or 7. Unfortunately over the last 40+ years watching this team, we’ve ended up on the losing end of playoff series more often than not. I don’t know what it is, but it doesn’t matter what incarnation of the team it is, we just seem to always fall short of expectations when it matters most. Why is that? I have no idea, but with the season this group has put together, it just doesn’t seem right that losing in the first round is the proper outcome. Therefore I will continue to cheer for my team and continue to believe that this is the year things will change in our favour and Calgary will be the dominant force that they established themselves to be during the regular season, this is the way. GO FLAMES GO!!!!!!!

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Flames may have won against the Perds...

“May have” is an important caveat.

In the play-offs, if we’re being honest with ourselves, our expectations throughout the years decades have been pretty low.

Even then, they’re rarely met.

Sure, when you take a season in isolation - there’s hope - that’s what kills you.

Looking at the longer-term picture - I just don’t know what is wrong and why any set of players we put on the ice can’t cope with play-off hockey.

[SebC]

Some terrible takes in this thread.

Flames have a fine coach (as evidenced by their drastic improvement under his leadership), two players who scored more points than Iginla, and you want to get rid of them because we're getting PDO'd in a small sample? Well then you have no grounds to question the Flames' mental fortitude, because it's YOU who cannot handle adversity.

You don't blow up a team that's got the highest goal differential in the conference because they haven't had their playoff breakthrough yet.

And if you want to take a dump on anyone for the outcome of this particular game, take it on Andersson, whose overhelp is what left Pavelski wide open on the GWG. Stupid sexy Pavelski.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Flames sucked.

Makrstom is not elite.

Just lose. I don't think I could deal with the oilers walking right over the flames next round.

Markstrom has conceded a grand total of 4 goals in 3 games.

And that’s your take?

[driveway]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

I think Gaudreau goes east if the Flames lose. He can get that big money contract and live in obscurity, compared to the high pressure environment in Calgary that he's not able to handle. Maybe he can pull a Phil Kessel and find room on an established contender where he doesn't have to be the main guy, though he'd probably have to leave a lot of money on the table in that situation

Offer him 4 years at 2 million to stay here.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by TheChief

Sportsnet trolling us fans after the loss.. I seen on their ticker flames are 2-11 all time when going down 2-1 in a series.

Our record probably isn’t much better when going 2-1 up in a series.

[calgaryred]

Tied 1-1 and splitting in Dallas isn't much difference if you win game 3 or 4. They still tie the series, thought Flames played good enough to win 40 plus shots on goal. Dallas goalie actually had to make some key saves. Top line scored, 4th line got a goal, Markstrom was a great goalie, play like that again they have a chance game 4. I just hope they can get the PP moving! Like it or not this Flames team is better than 2015 2017 2019 and 2020 teams, they need to learn to deal with the ups and downs of a series. Get through Dallas and they can compete with Colorado or St. Louis, game 4 is a game that can turn this team into believers. If they win game 4 this whole board will be dancing in the streets. Let's see what happens it's a new team under a different coach, we didn't lose 7-2, and what happened in 1993 or 2009 or 2019 has no part what will happen in 2022.

[WhiteTiger]

Well...that isn't the result I wanted to see when I woke up this morning. >.<

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by gboom

I’ve been a die hard flames fan since they came to Calgary, there’s only 2 possible outcomes of this series, flames win in 6 or they lose in 5, 6 or 7.

That’s four outcomes, and you failed to list Flames in 7, which some of us voted for.

[Moneyhands23]

What a disappointment

Team is garbage...so sick of the excuses

[Roof-Daddy]

1. The Flames haven't lost the series yet
2. They've been the better team in every game (not that it matters if they keep losing)
3. It's hilarious to me that people still get so angry at this team/franchise when they do this. I mean kudos to anyone that still goes into anything the Flames do with some sort of positive expectation haha. But for me it was hope for the best, expect the worst....

[Monahammer]

This why I told my wife I'm not busting out the flags or opening the bottle of Lanny whiskey until the 2nd round.

[Royle9]

This whole Ottenger playing out of his mind mentality is hilarious to me.
Very few high danger big saves

• Giving up juicy rebounds
• Dealing with almost 0 traffic
• No deflections put on net
• Calgary can’t hit the net half the time

Dallas has 2 deflection goals and 3 rebound goals.
That’s literally the difference, if Calgary gets one bounce or has 1 of these juicy rebounds land on our sticks it’s a completely different series.

I can’t fathom a team with worse luck luck than the Flames.
With that said they need to start hitting the net more with their shots, and playing harder in front of the net.

But this notion that Markstrom is being out goalied is hilarious.
The hype around Ottenger is getting in the heads of the Flames and the fans it seems and it’s working on both.

[I_H8_Crawford]

Man, I missed GG hockey, which is what we are watching. Good to know not even Sutter can overcome the mental midgets on this team.

Stars in 5, 6 if the Flames fluke one more win out.

Pathetic showing in the playoffs AGAIN.

[I_H8_Crawford]

Originally Posted by Royle9

This whole Ottenger playing out of his mind mentality is hilarious to me.
Very few high danger big saves

• Giving up juicy rebounds
• Dealing with almost 0 traffic
• No deflections put on net
• Calgary can’t hit the net half the time

Dallas has 2 deflection goals and 3 rebound goals.
That’s literally the difference, if Calgary gets one bounce or has 1 of these juicy rebounds land on our sticks it’s a completely different series.

I can’t fathom a team with worse luck luck than the Flames.
With that said they need to start hitting the net more with their shots, and playing harder in front of the net.

But this notion that Markstrom is being out goalied is hilarious.
The hype around Ottenger is getting in the heads of the Flames and the fans it seems and it’s working on both.

I 100% agree with you on this. It seems almost every Dallas shot is screened or a tip.

How many tipped shots has Calgary got on met?

Well, you would need someone in FRONT of the net for that to occur, and the Flames decided they don't need to do that.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Royle9

This whole Ottenger playing out of his mind mentality is hilarious to me.
Very few high danger big saves

• Giving up juicy rebounds
• Dealing with almost 0 traffic
• No deflections put on net
• Calgary can’t hit the net half the time

Dallas has 2 deflection goals and 3 rebound goals.
That’s literally the difference, if Calgary gets one bounce or has 1 of these juicy rebounds land on our sticks it’s a completely different series.

I can’t fathom a team with worse luck luck than the Flames.
With that said they need to start hitting the net more with their shots, and playing harder in front of the net.

But this notion that Markstrom is being out goalied is hilarious.
The hype around Ottenger is getting in the heads of the Flames and the fans it seems and it’s working on both.

It’s stupid to think the Flames are losing because of luck

They are losing because they play Dallas game and when Johnny stopped scoring so is rest of the team….and Johnny chokes when the playoffs come around. It’s not like he plays badly….but that little hesitant makes a huge difference.

Markstrom’s rebound control was terrible in game 4. That make him the 2nd best goalie of the night but they are not losing because of him

[Lanny_McDonald]

Everyone relax. This isn't over YET. The Flames don't look good, but they could turn it around and finish the Stars off. They have to get back to playing with the same swagger they had during the regular season. The problems I see from the Flames are pretty straight forward.

* Sutter set them on this course with his mindnumbingly stupid mumble-jumbo about them being the underdogs in this series. Professional athletes need to believe in themselves to be successful. This world-against-us mentality is pretty much crap after you do what the Flames did during the regular season. The idea they being preached that they are the underdogs let's seeds of uncertainty be planted and a little adversity cause the belief they really aren't good enough to take root. The Flames have lost their swagger because they don't believe they should be winning these games. It has become a self-fulfilling prophesy even though they are the much better team.

* The Flames have reverted to their old ways. This was predictable as soon as the underdog #### started. The Flames are no longer playing with confidence and have gone back to playing around the perimeter. They are playing scared and it shows in the shots they are generating. These guys are afraid to go to the dangerous spots on the ice and try to make something happen, so they play around the perimeter and generate a tone of long range low percentage shots.

* Gaudreau has reverted to coming across the blueline and blowing snow, eliminating a lot of the open ice Gaudreau has been so good at creating all season long. He has to carry the puck in deeper and create more open ice where the puck turnovers don't result in such quick transitions or easy dump outs.

* Tkachuk continues to be a no-mind idiot, unfocused and incapable of being a winner when it matters. You don't settle scores in the playoffs. You save that crap for next season. You want payback in the post season you do it by taking away the other guy's hopes of a ring by eliminating them from the playoffs. He's still mentally weak and easily distracted. Until this changes he'll never be a significant playoff performer on a winner. He needs to play some hockey, score some goals, and contribute to wins, not trying to settle imaginary scores.

* The second and third lines need to step the hell up and provide something - ANYTHING - of value at this point. Do SOMETHING positive. Score a goal. Make a big hit. Win some puck battles. Do something that can change a game in the Flames direction.

The Flames need to find their swagger, and ####ing fast or this series is over. If they continue to allow the Stars to dictate the ebb and flow of this series it is over. But this team proved during the regular season they can be the one to dominate all over the ice, they are the ones who establish the pace, and they are ones who control the ebb and flow of the game. They need to start believing in that and start playing like that. It ain't over, but they need to believe in themselves and this whole underdog horse#### that Sutter has been spinning from day one is not helping.

[browntrout]

If they lose this series, the team has 2 first round series wins and 14 first round series losses since their Cup win....words cannot describe just how bad that is.