[Trade] Flames acquire rights to Nikita Zadorov for 3rd acquired in Rittich trade

[chubeyr1]

Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire

I've tried getting behind the Zadorov acquisition, but it's so hard for me to like his defensive play. By mid-year, I have a feeling most folks here on CP are going to get tired of him getting pinned in his own zone and taking bad penalties.


The one point of optimism I can get behind is that he's young enough where he's just coming to his prime 'defenseman years' and I hope to God that he isn't as lumbery as I remember him to be.

That is the risk!

Guys at this age can pop.

He is just entering his prime years.

He is not going to win the Norris trophy. Yet if he can improve a little as a shutdown dman it could go a long way. Guy could be a beast!

He is massive. He hits like a tonne. We need that on this team. We really do!

Yet if he does not improve he is Michael Stone.

I like Stone! At just over a million a year.

I like the player, scared of the contract though.

Think we are going to be paying top four price for bottom six performance.

I want to be wrong.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by chubeyr1

That is the risk!

Guys at this age can pop.

He is just entering his prime years.

He is not going to win the Norris trophy. Yet if he can improve a little as a shutdown dman it could go a long way. Guy could be a beast!

He is massive. He hits like a tonne. We need that on this team. We really do!

Yet if he does not improve he is Michael Stone.

I like Stone! At just over a million a year.

I like the player, scared of the contract though.

Think we are going to be paying top four price for bottom six performance.

I want to be wrong.

I don’t think that Zadorov hits like a ton. He’s a physical dman, but teams are not afraid to play against him.


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[timbit]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I don’t think that Zadorov hits like a ton. He’s a physical dman, but teams are not afraid to play against him.


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He hits very hard.

Many top forwards will be more than very aware when he is on the ice.

My opinion, based on watching him a lot.

He provides an element that has been sorely missed.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I don’t think that Zadorov hits like a ton. He’s a physical dman, but teams are not afraid to play against him.


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He was 4th in hits among defenseman last year with 190, in 55 GP... that's almost 4 hits each game! He is the sole reason that a lot of forwards prefer to dump the puck into his partner's corner. Teams are definitely aware of when he's on the ice.

[Goriders]

I’d rather play on his side than play against him.

He’ll help with the mean.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I don’t think that Zadorov hits like a ton. He’s a physical dman, but teams are not afraid to play against him.


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He sure had Tkachuk playing timid after hammering him in the Colorado series.

[getbak]

If the arbitration filing deadline was 5pm ET, I wonder when we'll hear who filed?

Zadorov is really the only arb-eligible player on the Flames have who might get a bigger award from the arbitrator.


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[Bingo]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Lindholm’s contract was very fair for a guy who was coming off of a 44 point season

We can’t look at his jump to 78 in Calgary the season after signing and call Tre a tough negotiator here

I just had a look at his signing thread ... sure seemed like most were pretty happy the day he signed it.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

He sure had Tkachuk playing timid after hammering him in the Colorado series.

Or Johnny when he destroyed him last season in the game Lucic punched him in the face.

[Tkachukwagon]

Originally Posted by getbak

if the arbitration filing deadline was 5pm et, i wonder when we'll hear who filed?

Zadorov is really the only arb-eligible player on the flames have who might get a bigger award from the arbitrator.


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[Hockey-and_stuff]

We still have until the arbitration hearing to sign him correct? Still a shot at a long term deal?

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[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by Hockey-and_stuff

We still have until the arbitration hearing to sign him correct? Still a shot at a long term deal?

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I believe we have until the actual ruling.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

He was 4th in hits among defenseman last year with 190, in 55 GP... that's almost 4 hits each game! He is the sole reason that a lot of forwards prefer to dump the puck into his partner's corner. Teams are definitely aware of when he's on the ice.

There is a difference between hitting hard and hitting. He’s also extremely easy to skate around. There is a reason why neither Chicago nor Seattle wanted him, as his analytics are very poor.

As I said he quite physical as he’s often defending .


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[getbak]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

I believe we have until the actual ruling.

That was one of the small changes in the new CBA.

From the MOU:

A Salary Arbitration matter may not be settled after the hearing has commenced.

[blender]

He filed for arbitration

[dammage79]

Yep, and his agent said it was straight up because of the timing and they didn't have a lot of time to get a deal done before the filing deadline. Said they expect to have a deal done before a hearing.

Sounded like there's a good vibe all around.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Yep, and his agent said it was straight up because of the timing and they didn't have a lot of time to get a deal done before the filing deadline. Said they expect to have a deal done before a hearing.

Sounded like there's a good vibe all around.

Honestly, it's as simple as being the smart thing for a player im Zaradov's position. It would be surprising had he not filed.

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[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

There is a difference between hitting hard and hitting. He’s also extremely easy to skate around. There is a reason why neither Chicago nor Seattle wanted him, as his analytics are very poor.

As I said he quite physical as he’s often defending .


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Okay, let's examine his analytics.



He has great analytics defensively. He suffers from generating chances on the offensive side of the puck. He is not great at pushing the puck up the ice, I'll give you that. He also takes too many penalties, mostly for roughing/hits too high(has something to do with him being a giant). I just don't agree with your take about him being easy to skate around. He is not a bad skater, he struggles with the cycle game not with people skating around him off the rush.

[Mull]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Honestly, it's as simple as being the smart thjng for a player im Zaradov's position. It would be surprising had he not filed.

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If anyone holds this against the player they are nuts

He did the right thing to file if the deadline is approaching.

Not filing gives the flames all the leverage.

Hopefully he settles beforehand but its almost become taboo for RFA's to go for arbitration, when its simply a tool in their toolbox they negotiated for in the CBA and should be used if they player/agent thinks it will give them more value.

[Mull]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

Okay, let's examine his analytics.



He has great analytics defensively. He suffers from generating chances on the offensive side of the puck. He is not great at pushing the puck up the ice, I'll give you that. He also takes too many penalties, mostly for roughing/hits too high(has something to do with him being a giant). I just don't agree with your take about him being easy to skate around. He is not a bad skater, he struggles with the cycle game not with people skating around him off the rush.

How would he compare to a Robyn Regehr? He had little offensive upside, no?