2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[stemit14]

As always, it’s really dependent on the contract. I think Conroy sees Andersson as the future captain of the team (after Backlund retires) if Andersson is willing to sign an extension. If it’s for say $8 million/year for 8 years, I would be fine signing him. But if it takes something like $9.5 million per year, that’s too much IMO.

I think Andersson gets $9.5 million AAV in the open market (maybe more) so that might be the price to get a deal done.

[CFO]

Originally Posted by stemit14

As always, it’s really dependent on the contract. I think Conroy sees Andersson as the future captain of the team (after Backlund retires) if Andersson is willing to sign an extension. If it’s for say $8 million/year for 8 years, I would be fine signing him. But if it takes something like $9.5 million per year, that’s too much IMO.

I think Andersson gets $9.5 million AAV in the open market (maybe more) so that might be the price to get a deal done.

Needs to step it up. He has been ice cold last 15 games.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Helenius is absolutely not going anywhere. Buffalo was after him before they knew where they were drafting, and probably would have taken him at 6 if they were there.



Buffalo was and maybe is still asking for the moon for Cozens, like 1st++ at this point.
Craig has interest, but he's not going to mortgage the future for Cozens at this point.

Glad to hear interest from Conroy, but no interest at that price.

But I don't get the no-for-any-price comments. If he's available for NJs first or so, Calgary would have to be in on that. He's a high ceiling young player that's put up 37 goals/68 points when that team had some confidence -- and probably a better room. Slotting him into Calgary where the room seems generally positive could spark a guy like that... he's a better gamble at the right age than whomever the team is going to draft at 23rd overall or whatever.

Yeah, he could still be mediocre if the Flames trade for him, but you're not building a Stanley cup caliber team without taking a few big risks--and picking up a potential number one centre from a tire-fire team is a risk worth taking (at the right price).

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

But which vets like the above mentioned are going to waive any trade protection to join the tire fire in progress? Most older, reliable vets like that have some form of trade protection and I'd wager Buffalo is the first name on every list.

But that challenge isn't going away ever. They need to young core to start winning but it does not need to be this year. They are lining up for a franchise center with their 1st in this draft too.

Trade for Petterson.

Draft another center.

This team will be fine soon. They are just too young.

Maybe if they turn the corner, some vets will take them off their list.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

Glad to hear interest from Conroy, but no interest at that price.

But I don't get the no-for-any-price comments. If he's available for NJs first or so, Calgary would have to be in on that.

The comment was he was not interested in 1st++, not just for NJ's 1st.

The ++ makes a huge difference.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

The comment was he was not interested in 1st++, not just for NJ's 1st.

The ++ makes a huge difference.

Yep, I'm not commenting on Conroy's lack of interest at the ++. That's a good thing. My comment is more in response to other posters stating they simply don't want him at almost any price.

You can't get a bargain on bananas unless the bananas have a few spots! Let's get some cheap, spotted bananas!

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by stemit14

As always, it’s really dependent on the contract. I think Conroy sees Andersson as the future captain of the team (after Backlund retires) if Andersson is willing to sign an extension. If it’s for say $8 million/year for 8 years, I would be fine signing him. But if it takes something like $9.5 million per year, that’s too much IMO.

I think Andersson gets $9.5 million AAV in the open market (maybe more) so that might be the price to get a deal done.

If he offers this like the Lindholm contract, Conroy should be fired. Instead he needs to get a Lindholm type return!

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by stemit14

As always, it’s really dependent on the contract. I think Conroy sees Andersson as the future captain of the team (after Backlund retires) if Andersson is willing to sign an extension. If it’s for say $8 million/year for 8 years, I would be fine signing him. But if it takes something like $9.5 million per year, that’s too much IMO.

I think Andersson gets $9.5 million AAV in the open market (maybe more) so that might be the price to get a deal done.

I think People have been fooled by Anderson's great start. He's been pretty pedestrian for about 15 games. He should be traded for a good return. Signing him for 8 years would be a huge mistake, as he'll be regressing by the time Calgary is ready to contend for a playoff spot.

[Rutuu]

He's also the wrong age to sign to a long term deal of 8yrs in my opinion.

Max value for Draft pick compensation in this years draft is around xmas - end of Jan.

Lowest value for draft pick compensation, but there are more teams in the mix is trading him at the draft, as draft picks for this year rise in perceived value the closer you get to making that pick.

Trade deadline is somewhere in the middle of both. Waiting until next year or after the draft adds a year to development and decreases the value of his cost controlled contract. Because he's cost controlled, the longer the term on the current contract actually adds value instead of taking it away (the opposite is a guy like Coleman that has too many years left for value.)

TLDR: Every day we keep Andersson we're eroding his trade value.

[Harry Lime]

I would say that Andersson would qualify as an absolutely elite #2. He brings all of the secondary attributes that you would want. That also brings me back to playing 8 years as a Rasmus Dahlin/Rasmus Andersson pairing, with Powers playing wrecking ball on the second pair. It seems like a perfect situation.

Except that it's Buffalo.

Buffalo can literally give up Isak Rosen and Jiri Kulich while giving up Connor Clifton to make room for Andersson, and who would slide right in to partnering with Weegar.

Buffalo wouldn't miss a beat losing those three guys, their prospect base is so deep. Rosen projects as a top six LW and Kulich as a top six C. Rosen sits in value close to Honzek, and Kulich close to Zary.

A nice bump for everybody, but Pelegulalala exists.

[getoverit]

Ummm no, Anderson exists and he won’t be picking buffalo. He controls his destination. Wants to go win a cup if he leaves

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

I would say that Andersson would qualify as an absolutely elite #2. He brings all of the secondary attributes that you would want. That also brings me back to playing 8 years as a Rasmus Dahlin/Rasmus Andersson pairing, with Powers playing wrecking ball on the second pair. It seems like a perfect situation.

Except that it's Buffalo.

Buffalo can literally give up Isak Rosen and Jiri Kulich while giving up Connor Clifton to make room for Andersson, and who would slide right in to partnering with Weegar.

Buffalo wouldn't miss a beat losing those three guys, their prospect base is so deep. Rosen projects as a top six LW and Kulich as a top six C. Rosen sits in value close to Honzek, and Kulich close to Zary.

A nice bump for everybody, but Pelegulalala exists.

[Harry Lime]

If the Sabres were sold to anybody... Oprah, Bezos, a super intelligent hamster... Andersson would be OK with going the next day. That team should be a long term contender as soon as next year, without any interference. They have all of the core pieces.

That's why I frustratingly qualified my post.

[boogerz]

Originally Posted by stemit14

As always, it’s really dependent on the contract. I think Conroy sees Andersson as the future captain of the team (after Backlund retires) if Andersson is willing to sign an extension. If it’s for say $8 million/year for 8 years, I would be fine signing him. But if it takes something like $9.5 million per year, that’s too much IMO.

I think Andersson gets $9.5 million AAV in the open market (maybe more) so that might be the price to get a deal done.

There are only ~35 defensemen earning more than $7M AAV in the NHL and an $8M x 8 contract would make Andersson the 17th highest paid dman.



He's is a good player, but he's definitely not a #1 dman. It'd be nice to see him re-signed, but anything higher than a Montour-type contract ($7-7.5M AAV) is too much.

Also, barring re-signings, there's also a fairly healthy crop of UFA defensemen in 2025 and 2026. 2025 alone has Orlov, Provorov, Gavrikov, Chychrun, Pettersson, Ekblad, Pionk, and Lindgren as potential options for teams at the deadline or July 1st. If Andersson's camp is expecting an $8M+ AVV, they might be in for a surprise.

[Royle9]

I’ve been told that the Flames and Andersson haven’t talked contract all season.
There’s no indication he wants to be here, no commitment to the Flames long term (anything passed contract length)

Not to say Craig wouldn’t resign him, but he’s been pretty clear that players need to want to be in Calgary and build something long term.

Craig’s not going to come out and play his hand to the media, of course he’s going to say he hopes to resign him but nobody is talking extension at this point.

[Ashasx]

The one thing that disappointed me listening to the Conroy interview on 960 yesterday with Steinberg was that he essentially said talks regarding Andersson's next contract would begin on July 1 when he can extend, and those talks would dictate whether he would stay or go.

I'm hoping that's just media speak but I hope the Flames are the ones dictating his future with the team - they should know that before July 1 - and they should act before the end of the season if he won't re-sign.

[Number 39]

I almost don’t care about the $ on a potential Anderson contract. I care about the term….Thats the part that terrifies me.

[Rutuu]

Originally Posted by getoverit

Ummm no, Anderson exists and he won’t be picking buffalo. He controls his destination. Wants to go win a cup if he leaves

Agree in part, however, it is a 6team no trade list for his NTC.

[stemit14]

I think many teams are just waiting for the flames to take a nosedive in the standings. Every time it looks like it’s about to happen, the flames win a few games and stay in a playoff spot. I’m not saying Conroy is choosing to keep Andersson or anyone else because the flames are in a playoff spot… I’m saying he might be factoring that into the cost to trade them. If the flames were at the bottom of the standings and it was clear Andersson was not going to sign an extension, the cost to convince Conroy to trade him might be lower than it is now. Right now, any trade to acquire Andersson has to be enough to offset his value as a top pairing defenceman on a great contract as well as offset the disruption it would have on the team (players, coaches and fans included). If the flames go on a losing streak, teams will assume Conroy is no longer holding out hope to sign Andersson and he won’t have to worry about out disrupting a team that is losing.

I think that’s part of why Conroy is sticking to his price for Vladar. He has no pressure to trade him right now. Any team that wants him has to pay the price to offset weakling the team’s depth in the net and disrupting the team itself.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Number 39

I almost don’t care about the $ on a potential Anderson contract. I care about the term….Thats the part that terrifies me.

His deal will be the longest term he can get. Why wouldn't it be?

It will include a number of declining years, that's the name of the game.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Rutuu

That's disappointing...The moves that moved this organization forward the past 18months were forced by guys that wouldn't sign.

No, they were not forced by guys who wouldn't sign.

There was contract discussion. There wasn't contract agreement. That can mean many things - one of which being that the Flames made offers that were Flames-friendly, but the players wanted more.

That is asset management - they weren't forced to do anything.