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Old 12-18-2024, 10:41 AM   #4821
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Do the Rangers or Sabres pull the trigger on a deal before the roster freeze? Seems more like a NY thing to do as it appears nothing will save the Sabres season. Adams should be fired
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Old 12-18-2024, 11:10 AM   #4822
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Do the Rangers or Sabres pull the trigger on a deal before the roster freeze? Seems more like a NY thing to do as it appears nothing will save the Sabres season. Adams should be fired
Doubt it.

No one’s getting traded/fired a week before Christmas.

Think we can put the pitch forks away, for now.
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Old 12-18-2024, 11:19 AM   #4823
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He would need to pass through waivers to be sent down.

And he's Calgary's back up of the future as well.
Only after 10 cumulative games or 30 cumulative days on the roster. And you can extend that with sending down/bringing back up when you're off.
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Old 12-18-2024, 11:25 AM   #4824
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Buffalo is in such a weird spot right now.

I don't blame them for not wanting to sell low on their "Core" (Thompson, Tuch, Dahlin, Cozens, Peterka, Power, Mcleod), because they probably shouldn't be moving those guys.

But then at the same time they are hesitant to move any prospects or picks to try to help these guys win now.

I can get not wanting to move Helenius, or Benson because those guys have potential to be legitimate stars.

But to me they are way to hesitant to move on from pieces like Kulich, Rosen, Ostlund, Quinn, or Krebs. Or any of their future picks (the 2025 pick would have top 10 protection for sure).

Even if you're selling a bit low on a piece like that, if it's part of a package that brings in a piece that actually helps those core pieces become more effective players then it's a deal they should probably be making at this point to try to build a bit of a winning culture.
I wonder what the market is for Cozens, a guy who makes more than Kadri and produces less than him. Sure hope whoever enters that market is not Calgary.

Sometimes young is just young, nothing more.
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Old 12-18-2024, 11:26 AM   #4825
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If you look at the Buffalo roster, you realize that their rebuild is over. They have their guys.

The problems are the coach, administration, corporate, owners... and everything surrounding the team. No kidding there would be issues in the room, I could see favoritism and gaslighting all the way back here in the nosebleeds.

This won't change until the team is sold. I mean Pegula (sp?) gave the team to his silver spoon wife to run! As an opposing GM, you're only thought is to cannibalize the corpse. It's a well built team that's toxic to the core.
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Old 12-18-2024, 11:51 AM   #4826
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I'd like to see Hunter B get a few NHL games now that he is finding his offense in AHL.

Everything holds together, he is a big part of future top 4, especially if Anderson is teased this season or next.
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Old 12-18-2024, 11:52 AM   #4827
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Conroy sounded pretty confident that he can sign Andersson
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Old 12-18-2024, 11:56 AM   #4828
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If you look at the Buffalo roster, you realize that their rebuild is over. They have their guys.

The problems are the coach, administration, corporate, owners... and everything surrounding the team. No kidding there would be issues in the room, I could see favoritism and gaslighting all the way back here in the nosebleeds.

This won't change until the team is sold. I mean Pegula (sp?) gave the team to his silver spoon wife to run! As an opposing GM, you're only thought is to cannibalize the corpse. It's a well built team that's toxic to the core.
Good point. As far as rebuilding through the draft, they have followed that model. Their top centre is a legit #1 centre. Their top defencemen are legit top defencemen. Virtually all of their core players were high draft picks. The ones that aren’t are (Thompson and Tuch) would likely go higher in a re-draft.

Virtually every team in the league would be salivating at an opportunity to trade for players or prospects that Buffalo has.

I’m not saying they shouldn’t trade anyone. It does seem like some players have soured under this management and coaching staff (Cozens IMO). But I think these decisions and trades should not be made by Adams or any of the current management. A complete clean house of the coaching up should be done. Even if it’s mid-season. Though a not sure what proven GMs or coaches are available right now or would sign with Buffalo.
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Old 12-18-2024, 12:03 PM   #4829
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Conroy sounded pretty confident that he can sign Andersson

4 points in his last 21 games, and struggling in quite a few of those. Struggled last year, too. If this is becoming a trend with him (and still time to turn it around), he probably shouldn't.
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I'd like to see Hunter B get a few NHL games now that he is finding his offense in AHL.

Everything holds together, he is a big part of future top 4, especially if Anderson is teased this season or next.
I would rather be patient. If you bring him up and he struggles, it can set his confidence back quite a bit. Better to continue to let him build on that confidence. There is no rush.
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Old 12-18-2024, 12:20 PM   #4831
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Conroy sounded pretty confident that he can sign Andersson
It sounded similar to discussion around Hanifin and Tanev to be honest.

He's always going to say publicly that the plan is to re-sign these guys, especially when a player is still over a year from free agency and isn't even eligible for an extension until July 1.

Whether that is the plan or not that's what he's going to say in the media because he wants a team to feel like they have to overpay to acquire Andersson in a trade, not that Conroy is actively shopping him.
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Buffalo's issues are an overreaction. I really think they should just try and decide who wants to commit to Buffalo, trade anyone who doesn't want to commit and keep it going.

Their top 4 dmen...22-24 years old
6 forwards 23 and under
#1 Goalie is 25

No team ever wins with this many young players. Especially on d.

If they make trades, its packaging assets that don't want to commit long term with other young assets for players that fit their needs. Petterson is a good example of a player who would fit in nicely, signed for 8 years and doesn't have a NTC. Byram going back makes sense(Unless he wants to stay). Maybe Cozens too as Petterson is an upgrade in his position.

Once they upgrade, they need vets that play the right way. Guys like Tanev, Backlund and Coleman. They need leadership and grit. The core is fine, just a bit too young across the board.
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Old 12-18-2024, 12:29 PM   #4833
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What would be the rationale for either side to have a NMC for 7 of 8 years of a new contract, but not the first year?

Allvin - "We want to sign you to a massive 8-year deal, but we want the flexibility to trade you in year 1 without any restrictions"

Elias - "Sounds good to me"

It is a CBA thing. Same way Richards and Carter got traded
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Old 12-18-2024, 12:30 PM   #4834
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Buffalo's issues are an overreaction. I really think they should just try and decide who wants to commit to Buffalo, trade anyone who doesn't want to commit and keep it going.

Their top 4 dmen...22-24 years old
6 forwards 23 and under
#1 Goalie is 25

No team ever wins with this many young players. Especially on d.

If they make trades, its packaging assets that don't want to commit long term with other young assets for players that fit their needs. Petterson is a good example of a player who would fit in nicely, signed for 8 years and doesn't have a NTC. Byram going back makes sense(Unless he wants to stay). Maybe Cozens too as Petterson is an upgrade in his position.

Once they upgrade, they need vets that play the right way. Guys like Tanev, Backlund and Coleman. They need leadership and grit. The core is fine, just a bit too young across the board.
But which vets like the above mentioned are going to waive any trade protection to join the tire fire in progress? Most older, reliable vets like that have some form of trade protection and I'd wager Buffalo is the first name on every list.
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Old 12-18-2024, 12:31 PM   #4835
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Cozens wasn’t universally loved by his teammates in Lethbridge either. I’m not a fan of the idea of him as a Flame.
As someone who once met Cozens and knows one of his former teammates... what you are insinuating is shocking news to me.
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4 points in his last 21 games, and struggling in quite a few of those. Struggled last year, too. If this is becoming a trend with him (and still time to turn it around), he probably shouldn't.
Once he got his invite to team Sweden he took his foot off the gas. If he had the same GAF as Pachal then I’d be happy to see a contract extension. He’s back to being his maddening old self.
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Old 12-18-2024, 12:37 PM   #4837
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Calling it now: Provorov is going to VAN for a package that includes Hoglander, Desharnais, and picks.
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Old 12-18-2024, 12:47 PM   #4838
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Calling it now: Provorov is going to VAN for a package that includes Hoglander, Desharnais, and picks.

That woudl actually be good for both teams. Hoglander can be effective but is not scoring this year, Desharnais is a decent depth guy, and Provorov could do well not on a top pairing.
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Do the Rangers or Sabres pull the trigger on a deal before the roster freeze? Seems more like a NY thing to do as it appears nothing will save the Sabres season. Adams should be fired
I can't be the only person that snickered at the news that they re-hired Ruff. Let's not forget the 13 season streak missing the playoffs started when Ruff was the head coach so to bring him back when he's basically at the end of his career expecting that he could turn things around was a massive reach. When an organization is as bad as the Sabres have been it always starts at the top and Pegula is the problem.
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Conroy sounded pretty confident that he can sign Andersson
That's disappointing...The moves that moved this organization forward the past 18months were forced by guys that wouldn't sign.
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