A Game of Thrones **BOOKS OFF LIMITS** v2

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by zamler

Am I the only one that doesn't care much if she dies?

Care or not, with her most trusted allies either gone or turning on her, and when the mother of dragons has no babies left, it probably doesn't end well for her

You win or you die

[Looch City]

I really hope we get to see Bran actually DO something...such a waste if that's basically it for him.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Will the north follow Jon if they find out he isn’t Ned Stark’s son? A lot was made out of the idea that he had Ned Stark’s blood when they made him King of the North. Many of them were ready to ditch Jon for Sansa just because he was going south to do King stuff. They are a fickle bunch and pretty nationalistic.

It could be Sansa’s end game to make Jon lose support by spreading the news. She isn’t a little bird anymore after all and she admits that she learned a lot from Cersei. She started working on the Hound already too which gives her some protection. She wanted to be queen going all the way back to season 1.

I think she could be scheming.

I mean, I guess that’s interesting from a twist perspective but after the entire Littlefinger plot last season, I’m not sure i can imagine a dumber, more out of character, twist for the sake of a twist, show ruining plot than this.

It would retroactively ruin 7 seasons of character growth.

[ClubFlames]

Dany becomes the 'Mad Queen'
Jon kills her becoming the Queenslayer
Sansa and Jon hook up and rule the 7 kingdoms
Arya becomes the hand

[Yamer]

I'm convinced that Jaime kills Cersei, or dies trying. He always knew how poisonous she was, and now he grasps what he must do to stop what's about to happen. Hell, she sent a low-life sell-sword to kill him with a crossbow.

Jaime will be the King/Kinslayer.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by neo45

I don’t necessarily agree that a dragon HAS to die to even the playing field somehow, but if that’s the case then how about it dies during the massive battle they just had where it got wounded

I think Varys gets roasted next episode. Melisandre told him he was going to die in Westeros and he is pretty clearly turning against Dany who had warned him before

They need to set up Euron more as a bad guy, to make things more dramatic. The whole Euron thing just seems quite odd to me. They at some point made a decision not to include him in season 6, and he's also somehow this big player.

[Stud_McCool]

Maybe Jamie sent a raven to King's Landing informing them of the North's plan and how Danaerys was going back to Dragonstone, so Euron can setup his ambush. In the end, the Lannisters stay on the Iron Throne and Bronn finally gets his castle. Not all stories have a happy ending.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by neo45

I don’t necessarily agree that a dragon HAS to die to even the playing field somehow, but if that’s the case then how about it dies during the massive battle they just had where it got wounded

I think Varys gets roasted next episode. Melisandre told him he was going to die in Westeros and he is pretty clearly turning against Dany who had warned him before

Varys is definitely at a crossroads. Dany already threatened him once. He kept his promise to speak up but I don’t think that included scheming with Tyrion on alternate plans for a King/Queen.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I mean, I guess that’s interesting from a twist perspective but after the entire Littlefinger plot last season, I’m not sure i can imagine a dumber, more out of character, twist for the sake of a twist, show ruining plot than this.

It would retroactively ruin 7 seasons of character growth.

I don’t think it would be that out of character. She literally betrayed Jon’s trust as soon as she had an opportunity.

[AltaGuy]

Originally Posted by blankall

They need to set up Euron more as a bad guy, to make things more dramatic. The whole Euron thing just seems quite odd to me. They at some point made a decision not to include him in season 6, and he's also somehow this big player.

Euron is a huge character in the books, but I really hate his Pirate of the Caribbean character here.

... as Euron shoots his arbalest with pinpoint accuracy from the prow of a ship at one dragon, but struggles to hit the other larger dragon as it turns straight for him, the audience is left wondering, why did Captain Jack Sparrow only capture Missandei and no one else...

[AltaGuy]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Varys is definitely at a crossroads. Dany already threatened him once. He kept his promise to speak up but I don’t think that included scheming with Tyrion on alternate plans for a King/Queen.

I think Varys is D-E-A-D next episode from bad Daenarys the Destroyer.

Tyrion won't be happy, nor will Jon.

[Bigtime]

Melisandre told Varys both of them would die in Westeros, but didn't say when. Who knows, maybe Varys gets his way and is able to install a ruler on the throne that does the common folk good, and he then peacefully lives out his days on the continent before passing from old age.

[neo45]

Originally Posted by AltaGuy

Euron is a huge character in the books, but I really hate his Pirate of the Caribbean character here.

... as Euron shoots his arbalest with pinpoint accuracy from the prow of a ship at one dragon, but struggles to hit the other larger dragon as it turns straight for him, the audience is left wondering, why did Captain Jack Sparrow only capture Missandei and no one else...

I think Euron is terrible all around from writing to acting to the fact that he’s visibly like 50 years younger than his older brother and they never really talked about that

He’s on sand snake level of bad at this point in my books

[blankall]

Originally Posted by neo45

I think Euron is terrible all around from writing to acting to the fact that he’s visibly like 50 years younger than his older brother and they never really talked about that

He’s on sand snake level of bad at this point in my books

The best villains in GoT have had mixed intentions. Even Cersei has some redeeming qualities to her intent to rule. Euron, however, is like a cartoon character. His personality seems somewhere in between Joffrey and Ramsay, without pulling off either.

They literally used actors that were almost 40 years apart for Euron and Balon.

My guess is that it's Cersei herself that kills Euron. Mostly because he's annoying.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by neo45

I think Euron is terrible all around from writing to acting to the fact that he’s visibly like 50 years younger than his older brother and they never really talked about that

He’s on sand snake level of bad at this point in my books

Apart from Theon, the show has done a real disservice to the Greyjoys compared to Martin's material. They excluded a lot of their story, which is a shame because the show-runners have made Euron a major part of the end, even though he is one of the most incomplete characters to appear on the show.

Too bad.

[Harry Lime]

Dorne is huge, and their entire army hasn't taken the field anywhere. Jus' sayin'.

[Inglewood Jack]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I have nothing to back this up, just a hunch, but in the end Daenerys will kill Jon Snow with dragonglass, and since he's technically undead, he will become the new Night King, where he will conquer all.

if Jon and Beric are fire/light wights, why didn't they crumble when their resurrector (i.e. Thoros and Melisandre) bit the dust? why do only the bad wights have to play by the Phantom Menace droid rules?

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack

if Jon and Beric are fire/light wights, why didn't they crumble when their resurrector (i.e. Thoros and Melisandre) bit the dust? why do only the bad wights have to play by the Phantom Menace droid rules?

Obviously because every villain made weapon has a big red self destruct button.

[Kybosh]

Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack

if Jon and Beric are fire/light wights, why didn't they crumble when their resurrector (i.e. Thoros and Melisandre) bit the dust? why do only the bad wights have to play by the Phantom Menace droid rules?

Possibly because those two didn't actually resurrect Jon or Beric and it's actually the mysterious Lord of Light, R'hllor who's pulling the strings?

[Inglewood Jack]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

Possibly because those two didn't actually resurrect Jon or Beric and it's actually the mysterious Lord of Light, R'hllor who's pulling the strings?

well then that means all the wights and walkers were specifically under the Night King's power and not the Great Other, unless you also believe that they are one and the same, and a primordial deity can be vanquished with a stab to the gut. either way, pretty sure the fantasy lore portion of the show is all wrapped up, so we'll just have to go with head canon to keep ourselves satisfied.