Who did you vote for? - Official Election Results Thread

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by driveway

I believe that the Liberals [federal] could get a foothold in Alberta if they chose an Albertan as their leader. Of course it would have to be an Albertan who was impressively fluent in French otherwise they would kiss their support in Quebec goodbye.

Yeah that would be as likely as Jessica Alba telling me that she needed me.

Any Albertan that ran for the leadership of that party would be destroyed by the Liberal Party establishment and sent packing. It would be like Keyes running for the chairmanship of the Soviet Politburo

[Dion]

Anyone know if Taft has resigned yet?

[driveway]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

That is actually the one good thing Cretien did, is keep us out of that quagmire.

to be fair, he did lead the government through a time of unparallelled economic growth and balanced the budget. Something which the previous conservative administration had failed to do.

And those golf-balls were nifty too.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

ya, nobody's perfect though. It was a pretty popular choice at the time. That is actually the one good thing Cretien did, is keep us out of that quagmire.

I'd say I'm socially liberal and economically conservative. Ignatief, (sp?) isn't a bad alternative.

I dont think he is gonna fly in Canada. Many Canadians do not like the fact some go out of country for years to make their money and then come back at an "opportune" time to try to get into politics.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by driveway

to be fair, he did lead the government through a time of unparallelled economic growth and balanced the budget. Something which the previous conservative administration had failed to do.

And those golf-balls were nifty too.

PM's influence on the overall economy is quite small. They generally don't deserve the blame or the credit. Cretien didn't create an increase in the value of oil.

[Azure]

Photon can you tell from looking at Johnny99's IP address what part of the country he is from?

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by redforever

I dont think he is gonna fly in Canada. Many Canadians do not like the fact some go out of country for years to make their money and then come back at an "opportune" time to try to get into politics.

Maybe, but I don't see why that is relevant to the question who is best suited to be a PM. I'm ok with a PM who is 'opportunistic' in this way.

[driveway]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Any Albertan that ran for the leadership of that party would be destroyed by the Liberal Party establishment and sent packing.

If someone came tearing out of Alberta with the kind of charisma and electability that Obama seems to be demonstrating in the States (I don't want to turn this into an Obama thread, we have enough of those, but it seems like an apt analogy) I bet you would see victory-hungry Liberals flocking to his or her banner like Kevin Lowe to an RFA.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Dion

Anyone know if Taft has resigned yet?

Its not going to happen

Taft has already made his concession speech talked about going to work tommorrow, then ate a puppy.

[flamey_mcflame]

Someone more talented than me should start up a party that is fiscally conservative and socially modern and liberal. That party would represent all smart people. Man, if the Tories get 73 seats after this election, we are gonna be under the PC government for 100 years. All these old people complainging about change and technology are just getting older, grumpier and more plentiful. It's really sad that the youth don't vote, atleast everytime Grandma Jones says, " I hate everyone but the PC's", there will be one person who actually tells Grandma, "I'm gonna be paying for you social security, so stop acting so old". Anyways, a decent day for me, NDP down to 2 seats. Bye Bye NDP.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by driveway

If someone came tearing out of Alberta with the kind of charisma and electability that Obama seems to be demonstrating in the States (I don't want to turn this into an Obama thread, we have enough of those, but it seems like an apt analogy) I bet you would see victory-hungry Liberals flocking to his or her banner like Kevin Lowe to an RFA.

Nice couple of analogy's. But I'm not buying it, the Liberal party may be a national party, but it has a centrist viewpoint of Canada, and any leaders have to represent that centrist viewpoint.

The only way an Albertan ever gets into leadership is if he's willing to sell out Alberta.

[driveway]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

Cretien didn't create an increase in the value of oil.

I might be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure that, on the whole, the boom economy of the 90's wasn't entirely, or even largely built on the back of Oil prices. It was in Alberta, for sure - but that boom was global in scope, for the most part, and was characterized by growth in all economic sectors.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by flamey_mcflame

Someone more talented than me should start up a party that is fiscally conservative and socially modern and liberal. That party would represent all smart people. Man, if the Tories get 73 seats after this election, we are gonna be under the PC government for 100 years. All these old people complainging about change and technology are just getting older, grumpier and more plentiful. It's really sad that the youth don't vote, atleast everytime Grandma Jones says, " I hate everyone but the PC's", there will be one person who actually tells Grandma, "I'm gonna be paying for you social security, so stop acting so old". Anyways, a decent day for me, NDP down to 2 seats. Bye Bye NDP.

unfortunately that party would get hammered in rural alberta.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

Maybe, but I don't see why that is relevant to the question who is best suited to be a PM. I'm ok with a PM who is 'opportunistic' in this way.

I think a lot of Canadians have had enough with "opportunistic" politicians.

[Shawnski]

I really had to sit back and count to 1000 before I replied to that asinine "meaningless votes" comment. So consider this reply toned down.

Listen asswipe, if you think sacrificing Alberta votes, thus the voters themselves, is OK why the hell should Alberta voters not reject Canada? If your f'd up view is OK by you that 1 in 10 should be sacrificed, you should be OK with a ratio of 9 to 1 being told to take a hike and that Alberta chooses to take their ball and piss off. If 9 people are leaching off you, why stick around and take it up the ass?

You are currently enjoying the benefits of living in Alberta. Why don't you piss off back to whatever rock you crawled out from back East and never come back.

My apologies to everyone else, including the Mods, for violating several forum guidelines.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by driveway

I might be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure that, on the whole, the boom economy of the 90's wasn't entirely, or even largely built on the back of Oil prices. It was in Alberta, for sure - but that boom was global in scope, for the most part, and was characterized by growth in all economic sectors.

You are right, but Cretien didn't create it.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by redforever

I think a lot of Canadians have had enough with "opportunistic" politicians.

In this context I'm not aware of any.

The opportunity was seeing a party without a strong candidate so he moved from boston and threw his hat in the ring.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by driveway

If someone came tearing out of Alberta with the kind of charisma and electability that Obama seems to be demonstrating in the States (I don't want to turn this into an Obama thread, we have enough of those, but it seems like an apt analogy) I bet you would see victory-hungry Liberals flocking to his or her banner like Kevin Lowe to an RFA.

Except, as we've seen from the likes of Trudeau and Chretien, on the way down to the grass roots ... people ... like Johnny 99, Alberta is a disposable province to the Liberals. An Albertan as Liberal leader doesn't resonate in Ontario or Quebec any more than a Quebecker as leader resonates in Alberta.

It cost the Federal Liberals over $1 billion to fold CFB Calgary into CFB Edmonton just to help Landslide Annie win by 100 votes. The value of an Alberta leader is negligible to the Liberals.

[KevanGuy]

Originally Posted by Azure

Photon can you tell from looking at Johnny99's IP address what part of the country he is from?

We dont share that information.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

In this context I'm not aware of any.

The opportunity was seeing a party without a strong candidate so he moved from boston and threw his hat in the ring.

so if everyone is ok with this, how come he lost?