Lebrun: Flames "getting late in the process" of hiring a GM

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

Connie is awesome but not experienced at the gm position as far as I know

He's been an Assistant GM for a decade now and has no doubt learned a lot from serving under Treliving, and probably Burke as well when he was here. At this point I'd say the guy has certainly paid his dues and has earned a shot at the top job. I hope he gets it.

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I don’t think there’s really one of those on the market.

Bowman isn’t that - he didn’t build it, and did a poor job of managing it as time went on.

Most winners have been built by guys who either mismanaged a team into the top of the draft, or rebuilt teams but couldn’t “finish the job’ and then got let go before the fruits of their labour paid off.

imo we get good goaltending and a bit of tinkering and shedding of some contracts and we can be a playoff team again, and this playoffs is showing any team has a chance.

I feel that the coaching change we will see a better season, and we aren't as bad as it seems right now.

[dammage79]

Won't be no cone of silence with conny at the helm.

[bluejays]

Sutter was the worst at selling assets for a high value. The Phaneuf deal was the worst ever from a talent perspective. I know some will point to other deals but not shopping Phaneuf and only getting back subpar talent was forever his legacy deal.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

i'm very worried they are making the same mistakes, hopefully there's an experienced person who wants a challenge. I'm worried it will be like when Sutter was GM, I never cared for his gm attempt

You have to remember that Conroy has been gaining experience for this role for more than a decade.

If I look at the Flames organization over that decade I’d argue it’s in a much better spot than it was prior to that. Now, that isn’t because of Conroy but Conroy has been here as part of that momentum. I think it’s exciting to see internal development, especially when it comes to a well respected individual like Conroy.

It’s such an odd position for fans to judge though. We don’t really have a read on what could be a good hire, but we do have history to review where we could make arguments why some people would be bad hires.

I believe Nonis and Bowman would be outright bad hires.

I think Bergevin would be a pretty “meh” hire.

Conroy? Unsure, but the potential for him to develop into one of the “next wave” of good General Managers is definitely an exciting thought.

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by direwolf

He's been an Assistant GM for a decade now and has no doubt learned a lot from serving under Treliving, and probably Burke as well when he was here. At this point I'd say the guy has certainly paid his dues and has earned a shot at the top job. I hope he gets it.

Hopefully didn't learn about losing star talents lol jk i didn't really know he had that much experience so maybe he will be a good fit? players will like him and respect him anyways

Is Burke still around?

[bluejays]

Would be really good if between ownership and management they said they'd give this the last attempt at going for it, then rebuilding. Consequently, if you could build your management structure around those assumptions it would be good too.

[mile]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Sutter was the worst at selling assets for a high value. The Phaneuf deal was the worst ever from a talent perspective. I know some will point to other deals but not shopping Phaneuf and only getting back subpar talent was forever his legacy deal.

Just watched a Conroy interview with Boomer, Rhett, and Pinder from several months ago. Conroy was talking about how awful that trade was haha. Also mentioned obscure trades like the Chris Clark trade and how he couldn't even remember the return Sutter got.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by direwolf

He's been an Assistant GM for a decade now and has no doubt learned a lot from serving under Treliving, and probably Burke as well when he was here. At this point I'd say the guy has certainly paid his dues and has earned a shot at the top job. I hope he gets it.

Treliving seemed to put a lot of trust in Conroy and apparently got him to do a lot of heavy lifting. Titles are meaningless really and I would even argue he has some GM experience if he was delegated some of the GM work, which is what is sounds like.

[FanIn80]

Wasn't Conroy essentially the GM of the Heat/Wranglers? I seem to remember the AHL team being his purview.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Wasn't Conroy essentially the GM of the Heat/Wranglers? I seem to remember the AHL team being his purview.

That's Pascal

[Flames_Gimp]

if Conroy did all the heavy lifting than does that mean loosing jg&mt was partly his doing too?

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I think BT is held in high regard around the league

This x 1,000,000

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by activeStick

This x 1,000,000

really ? if he is that respected i wish florida gm didn't fleece him, he knew he was the trade winner

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

if Conroy did all the heavy lifting than does that mean loosing jg&mt was partly his doing too?

I don't think he had autonomy to make decisions. I think it was more a situation of Treliving delegating specific tasks for him to carry out.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

really ? if he is that respected i wish florida gm didn't fleece him, he knew he was the trade winner

It wasn't a fleecing. Do yourself a favor and delete this past season from memory. Any team that went through one single summer of completely obliterating their core are going to have a hard time coming together. Everything that could go wrong went wrong. And they still managed to finish 16th. That was the garbage team with garbage players with a coach who had worn out his welcome before the ASG.

Have some faith.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

really ? if he is that respected i wish florida gm didn't fleece him, he knew he was the trade winner

Too early to call a trade winner.

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by dammage79

It wasn't a fleecing. Do yourself a favor and delete this past season from memory. And team that went through one single summer of completely obliterating their core are going to have a hard time coming together. Everything that could go wrong went wrong. And they still managed to finish 16th. That was the garbage team with garbage players with a coach who had worn out his welcome before the ASG.

Have some faith.

true only been 1 bad year i'll give Huby a new start with a players coach and see what happens, if he has another bad year, though..i'm just being emotional because of the sting of chuck kicking ass. I'd still take Chuck over huby every time and I like huby

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Too early to call a trade winner.

i'm just being emotional because of the sting of chuck kicking ass

[Reggie Dunlop]

It's a process. Due diligence and all.