Stabbing in Brentwood-5 Dead, 1 Arrested

[Coys1882]

Details - may not be something you want to know about the scene.

NSFW!

I'm hearing through the EMS grapevine now that these kids were scalped? WTF? Is this true? I don't even want to read about this #### anymore.

[Hockeyguy15]

Should we keep the details to a minimum? Some people may not want to know exactly what happened to their friends?

[Muta]

If true... holy geezus. That's just gross and not right.

[hmmhmmcamo]

Originally Posted by Delgar

I'll wait to hear what the motive/trigger for these killings was, but yes, its one of those things where I wonder how it could be just that this 22 year old could go to prison for a maximum of 25 years and be released at age 47 and then still live a somewhat fulfilling life. Add in parole and.... it just doesn't seem right.

I'm pretty sure the max sentence isn't 25 years. He could be eligible for parole then, but I doubt he ever gets out.

[AcGold]

Originally Posted by prime333

How did he kill 5 people in a party and no one stopped him? Sure he had a knife, but you shouldn't die atm you should still be able to put up a fight I doubt anyone would die from a knife stab that fast you should still be able to fight back or yell from help and no one saw this or heard yells for help? There's like 20-30 at the time of the attack people didn't notice this? Anyways there's far more to this killing than meets the eye. There's no telling why he did this.

I've got a fair amount of self-defense experience and knowledge, pretty much every teacher will tell you that you can't defend against a knife. There is nothing to do against someone who is aggressively attacking with one, the only thing that works is running away, and... well I don't want to talk about this anymore just trust me there's probably nothing they could have done.

[prime333]

Originally Posted by dubc80

I think the news said 3 were found dead at the scene and 2 died from their injuries on their way to the hospital, or shortly after they arrived.

With a party going, people may have been segregated throughout the house and outside. With maybe some music playing and alcohol involved, I can see how he could have gotten around to a bunch of people in a short timeframe.

Plus, you're at a house party having a great time among friends and your guard is totally down so the accused would totally have an advantage there if he wanted to sneak up on someone.

I'm sure when people realized what was going down they'd get out of there ASAP instead of try to fight a guy with a knife.

If that were the case I don't blame them I would do the same thing as well. Though if that were the case they must have seen the attack and they can come to police and confirm the attacker.

[Kelekin]

Reporters are the worst. My friend has been contacted six times in the past hour just from sending out one tweet.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by hmmhmmcamo

I'm pretty sure the max sentence isn't 25 years. He could be eligible for parole then, but I doubt he ever gets out.

I am not very confident in the Canadian justice system but hopefully he never gets paroled

[Kybosh]

Originally Posted by prime333

If that were the case I don't blame them I would do the same thing as well. Though if that were the case they must have seen the attack and they can come to police and confirm the attacker.

What makes you think this exact scenario hasn't happened? What are you going on about?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by prime333

If that were the case I don't blame them I would do the same thing as well. Though if that were the case they must have seen the attack and they can come to police and confirm the attacker.

pretty sure witnesses helped police track down the guy, I don't think there is any question about his guilt

[Kjesse]

Originally Posted by hmmhmmcamo

I'm pretty sure the max sentence isn't 25 years. He could be eligible for parole then, but I doubt he ever gets out.

Its not the max sentence, but rather, he'd be eligible for parole after 25 years unless a court imposes parole ineligibility (new from the 2011 amendments) or declares him a dangerous offender.

[Kelekin]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

What makes you think this exact scenario hasn't happened? What are you going on about?

Because he is an armchair Superman who knows how he'd handle a situation and using the power of not-facts™ would disarm all attackers on sight.

I wouldn't engage this guy, he's right up there with the Blood Moon person from earlier.

[Kelekin]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Should we keep the details to a minimum? Some people may not want to know exactly what happened to their friends?

I think details are important. But definitely as long as there is a tag or warning or something.

[Nyah]

Originally Posted by Delgar

Its not the max sentence, but rather, he'd be eligible for parole after 25 years unless a court imposes parole ineligibility (new from the 2011 amendments) or declares him a dangerous offender.

Would he get consecutive life sentences if he were found guilty of all 5 first degree murders? How would that work?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by flameswin

I really, and I mean really wish Peter12 would stop posting in this thread. I don't know what he's trying to go for, but whatever it is it's really ill-informed and annoying. Especially considering the thread and how fresh the event is.

If you want to start some intellectual debate where you play the contrarian for ****'s and giggles because you think you're smarter than everyone, maybe start another thread. I'm sure people will be more than happy to engage you there. In here, there's something a little more tragic and newsworthy being discussed.

I am sorry, I don't understand.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Kelekin

Reporters are the worst. My friend has been contacted six times in the past hour just from sending out one tweet.

The media, as usual, is not distinguishing themselves at all. From what I have read, it appears that just about anyone who had anything to do with him at all in the past 10 years is being hounded by journalists.

[peter12]

If the speculation is right, and that this was more over a girl, and less to do with something purely psychotic, it would lend some credence to my earlier thesis that this was a primarily ego-fueled crime. I really think it is needlessly sentimental to pathologize all violent crime.

[surferguy]

Mods - can you fix the obvious nsfw tag on the last page please.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by prime333

How did he kill 5 people in a party and no one stopped him? Sure he had a knife, but you shouldn't die atm you should still be able to put up a fight I doubt anyone would die from a knife stab that fast you should still be able to fight back or yell from help and no one saw this or heard yells for help? There's like 20-30 at the time of the attack people didn't notice this? Anyways there's far more to this killing than meets the eye. There's no telling why he did this.

Everybody says this and it kind of drives me up the wall a bit. Where were the hero's here? Most times when people see that first person get stabbed and their fight or flight instinct kicks in, and 99% of the time man its flight.

Most people's first thought is not to attack the guy with the sharp object.

Almost Nobody keeps cool in a chaotic environment with people screaming and crying and dying.

Would I charge? Maybe but I have a death wish, if I had a girlfriend or buddy at the party I'd be pushing them away and out the door.

This stabbing probably took seconds. Its not like a horror movie where he slowly stalks victimes while funky 80's horror disco plays in the background.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Kelekin

Reporters are the worst. My friend has been contacted six times in the past hour just from sending out one tweet.

Yes they are. My family were victims of a crime with a far better outcome about 13 years ago but the nature of the crime was such that it was big news. A reporter came to the door and asked for comment and I told her I had none. Then she tried to bait me by telling me "What the neighbors are saying about you."

I wanted to punch her.