At some point Youtube had to evolve from being a combination of a anarchy state and the Wild Wild West.
I'm sure that too many legitimate advertisers woke up shocked to find their ads attached to some gun nut moron ranting about the Colored Problem in the States, or some dufus filming a dead suicide victim hanging from the tree.
I mean, I get it, and kudos to those that found a way to exploit platforms like youtube and managed to turn their lack of talent into serious money.
But eventually youtube couldn't keep having their names and their advertisers names attached to some of the content garbage on youtube.
If there's one thing that might be a positive from the youtube changes is maybe it will kill the ultimate con game known as the Truthers industry.
I mean the bottom line is that if you want a guarantee that your going to make money on your lame video content, then go out and buy a server and host your own website and hope you can attract sponsors.
whether this woman was mentally ill or overly entitled and combined with a serious lack of impulse control is up to the investigators.
But every get rich quick scheme eventually gets stomped out.
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If your content was worth watching, maybe the views would come. There's lots of successful YouTubers out there; maybe don't upload crap and think it's going to be popular.
If your content was worth watching, maybe the views would come. There's lots of successful YouTubers out there; maybe don't upload crap and think it's going to be popular.
I am not entirely familiar with all the aspects of what has changed in YouTube. But established YouTubers are complaining. For example one YouTuber that I follow with 225k subscribers had one of his videos only go out to 4k of his viewers. It would be frustrating to have YouTube hide your content seemingly randomly. It's frustrating as a viewer to have videos of people I follow not show up in my feed.
Another YouTuber I follow who has over a million subscribers has had many of his videos demonized (no ads, no revenue) essentially randomly for no reason (it's done by bots). He review movies, essentially all of his videos are the same. He is not doing anything that wouldn't be suitable for advertisers. I think people are frustrated because so much of YouTube is run by bots and trying to get help is like yelling into a void.
There is a ton of crap on YouTube, but there is also a ton of people creating great original content. I know old men like pylon don't want people creating original things on their own when they could be working under someone else.
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I enjoy watching my friend's FB wall, she moved from a pretty liberal area to this rural Montana area surrounded by pretty hard core conservatives and Trumpster supporters.
She's a sponge so her beliefs politically have done a pretty much 180, well maybe 90 at least lol.. Anyhow she has been posting all kinds of stories and things to push back against the left calling for gun law reform, and her latest was a story about how gun crime is at the lowest in US in many decades, which is true of course..
But what I'm fascinated by is her and her friends reactions in Montana when mass shootings occur (which has been on the rise obviously.) The reactions I can predict now pretty easy since I've watched in awe her FB wall during all the major mass shootings is the same..
1. Argue that its not time to talk about gun control immediately after the mass shooting
2. Say that banning guns is not a solution (No one has seriously suggested that, its a tiny tiny minority)
3. Spend most of her time talking about over reactions by liberals, argue over minute details of definitions and things that ultimately don't matter
4. Never offer any solutions, sometimes she even seems to support more guns in schools to teachers, or more police (security guards.)
5. Wait til the outrage is over and stop talking about it.
So when she posted this recent article, I said to her its now been around 10 mass shootings since you moved to Montana and became a more conservative person, yet you repeat this pattern (the list above) and have never suggested any solutions or supported any gun reform laws done at a federal level since gun laws done state by state don't have any significant effect nation wide.
After posting this "very personal attack" I was a few days later blocked, by a friend of 25 years that I have never been mean to, never said naughty words, walked on eggshells when I do on occasion post nonsense on her wall, like the time she attacked the BBC as "fake news" while using a personal blog of a right wing mouth piece as her justification for calling BBC fake news.
There isn't really a gun problem in the US as there is a partisan problem, and solving that will solve many other pressing issues. A multi party system? Finance and lobbying reform in politics? A civil war?
I just don't think the US is really able to save itself, its going to implode in the next 50 years and rebuild itself, hopefully in a positive way.
Anyways just my little rant.
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I enjoy watching my friend's FB wall, she moved from a pretty liberal area to this rural Montana area surrounded by pretty hard core conservatives and Trumpster supporters.
She's a sponge so her beliefs politically have done a pretty much 180, well maybe 90 at least lol.. Anyhow she has been posting all kinds of stories and things to push back against the left calling for gun law reform, and her latest was a story about how gun crime is at the lowest in US in many decades, which is true of course..
But what I'm fascinated by is her and her friends reactions in Montana when mass shootings occur (which has been on the rise obviously.) The reactions I can predict now pretty easy since I've watched in awe her FB wall during all the major mass shootings is the same..
1. Argue that its not time to talk about gun control immediately after the mass shooting
2. Say that banning guns is not a solution
3. Spend most of her time talking about over reactions by liberals, argue over minute details of definitions and things that ultimately don't matter
4. Never offer any solutions, sometimes she even seems to support more guns in schools to teachers, or more police (security guards.)
5. Wait til the outrage is over and stop talking about it.
So when she posted this recent article, I said to her its now been around 10 mass shootings since you moved to Montana and became a more conservative person, yet you repeat this pattern (the list above) and have never suggested any solutions or supported any gun reform laws done at a federal level since gun laws done state by state don't have any significant effect nation wide.
After posting this "very personal attack" I was a few days later blocked, by a friend of 25 years that I have never been mean to, never said naughty words, walked on eggshells when I do on occasion post nonsense on her wall, like the time she attacked the BBC as "fake news" while using a personal blog of a right wing mouth piece as her justification for calling BBC fake news.
There isn't really a gun problem in the US as there is a partisan problem, and solving that will solve many other pressing issues. A multi party system? Finance and lobbying reform in politics? A civil war?
I just don't think the US is really able to save itself, its going to implode in the next 50 years and rebuild itself, hopefully in a positive way.
Anyways just my little rant.
Right on the button with that one.
Ban lobbyists outright.
Ban political donations from unions/corporations/any type of group.
Cap individual donations to politicians/parties to something reasonable like $3,000 annually.
I think that would drastically and positively change how that country runs.
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3. Spend most of her time talking about over reactions by liberals, argue over minute details of definitions and things that ultimately don't matter
This is one of my favourite arguments by pro gun folks. If you don't know all the technical aspects of firearms then you aren't worthy to discuss guns at all. "You don't even know how many grains of gunpowder are in a 7.62 bullet, your opinion on arming school teachers is worthless!" "You didn't even notice I called it a bullet and not a cartridge, that's important difference for some reason!"
I know someone who is a snowbird in phoenix and he has been sharing pro gun stuff on facebook. Must be something about living around it I guess.
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Get a real job and or, if your iPhone selfie stick videos are so awesome, Sell your work to legitamite studio.
YouTube owes you nothing, and their terms of service dicatate they can do whatever the hell they want with your crappy homemade video.
Yeah, this is a pretty ignorant viewpoint at this stage, given what Youtube has become. It is a real job. If you can supply content that enough people want, you can make a living as an entertainer. Youtube doesn't owe these people anything, because Youtube is just a platform - the money comes from advertisers. The content producers are generating views for those advertisers. When Youtube itself, which is set up as essentially a middle man, decides to tilt the playing field for political reasons (or no reason at all - didn't they de-monetize literally every channel that discusses professional wrestling?) it's not at all surprising that people get upset. Which was the point.
Obviously this is an insane reaction that can't be justified. But it's totally justifiable for people to be upset and frustrated by Youtube's practices, because there just isn't another option.
This came out today, an interview with a major youtube personality by another major youtube personality, and it's pretty interesting to hear the inside perspective on what it's like to live in this world.
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This is one of my favourite arguments by pro gun folks. If you don't know all the technical aspects of firearms then you aren't worthy to discuss guns at all. "You don't even know how many grains of gunpowder are in a 7.62 bullet, your opinion on arming school teachers is worthless!" "You didn't even notice I called it a bullet and not a cartridge, that's important difference for some reason!"
I know someone who is a snowbird in phoenix and he has been sharing pro gun stuff on facebook. Must be something about living around it I guess.
Haha on her wall just before I posted my issues with her friends and her postings about these mass shootings was an image she shared and had many likes and comments that had an image of an AR 15, with the words "AR DOES NOT STAND FOR" "assault rifle" and "automatic rifle" with lines written through the words and below that "ARMA LITE, stupid libtards"
Its clearly an important distinction when kids are being murdered.
So I replied with this and said this is from wikipedia:
"The ArmaLite AR-15 was designed to be a lightweight assault rifle and to fire a new high-velocity, lightweight, small-caliber cartridge to allow the infantrymen to carry more ammunition.[4]"
and then mentioned using semi-automatic does not change its lethality, because you can fire incredibly fast, and said I know this because my brother used to own one in Canada. Oddly no comments in response to that.
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There is a ton of crap on YouTube, but there is also a ton of people creating great original content. I know old men like pylon don't want people creating original things on their own when they could be working under someone else.
Cool man. Great take.
99 percent of YouTube stuff is fecal matter. I watch a lot of the 1% of stuff on YouTube that’s worth watching, had production value, and isn’t a giant circle jerk of narcissism and attention whoring.
But to think YouTube owes anyone, anything, when it’s their platform, and their servers content generators are using for free, is silly and entitled.
If your channel is worth seeing, and worth it to YouTube, they’ll promote you. If they don’t like your stuff, for any reason whatsoever, regardless of how awesome you or your followers feel it is, and want to bury it, that’s their right.
You want full creative control, and censorship, build a stand alone domain, post your videos, and wait for the masses to come. If it’s so awesome, the audience will find you.
Ans Lastly you can still have full creative control, make a very very good income and ‘work under someone’ all at the same time. When cost of doing business is in the millions annually, I’d much sooner play with house money, and get a cut for my efforts..... kinda sounds like YouTube, no? Difference is, my percentage is much higher.
Youtube has employed a pretty simple business model:
1. Reinvest all profits into company to promote growth.
2. When you start to reach the limits of growth, shift focus towards profitability
3. Everyone gets a yacht.
Before the 'Adpocalypse', Youtube treated it's fringe creators well enough that a lot of them were able to start creating full time, but the company wasn't profitable. To become profitable, they had to cut out the fringe creators that advertisers didn't like and lean on the sort of left-leaning, easy to digest drivel that advertisers were more comfortable with (ie - Jimmy Kimmel, Buzzfeed, Viners, etc.).
From a business perspective, I can't argue with it much, other than that they may eventually become so restrictive they squeeze out too much of their audience and end up creating their own competition. But as someone who loves creativity and the exploration of unconventional ideas, I think this shift has been a tragedy, as the environment that was a hotbed of developing fringe talent is quickly going cold, and while the ones that built a strong audience were able to survive through diversifying (merchandise, patreon, etc.), the opportunity for people to follow in their footsteps is fading away.
But to think YouTube owes anyone, anything, when it’s their platform, and their servers content generators are using for free, is silly and entitled.
If your channel is worth seeing, and worth it to YouTube, they’ll promote you. If they don’t like your stuff, for any reason whatsoever, regardless of how awesome you or your followers feel it is, and want to bury it, that’s their right.
I don't see why people aren't allowed to complain about it. They are just suppose to give up and quite because they don't have a controlling stake in YouTube? I honestly think YouTube has a bunch of kinks they are ironing out and I am glad most of the content creators, that make their living there, aren't just walking away.
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You want full creative control, and censorship, build a stand alone domain, post your videos, and wait for the masses to come. If it’s so awesome, the audience will find you.
Oh, build your own YouTube? Got it.
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Yeah, this is a pretty ignorant viewpoint at this stage, given what Youtube has become. It is a real job. If you can supply content that enough people want, you can make a living as an entertainer. Youtube doesn't owe these people anything, because Youtube is just a platform - the money comes from advertisers. The content producers are generating views for those advertisers. When Youtube itself, which is set up as essentially a middle man, decides to tilt the playing field for political reasons (or no reason at all - didn't they de-monetize literally every channel that discusses professional wrestling?) it's not at all surprising that people get upset. Which was the point.
Obviously this is an insane reaction that can't be justified. But it's totally justifiable for people to be upset and frustrated by Youtube's practices, because there just isn't another option.
This came out today, an interview with a major youtube personality by another major youtube personality, and it's pretty interesting to hear the inside perspective on what it's like to live in this world.
I used to watch sxephil in the old days. His content was mostly crap to be honest, but he was one of those originals who just used youtube like a diary and people tuned in. He does have some funny takes to be fair.
The worst is when I'm strapped to a chair with my eyes taped open and forced to watch the youtube content.
You mean when your wife says OMG honey watch this video! And if you grumble about it, she pouts and guilts you into watch 10 videos in a row about makeup or "life hacks".
The NRA's board member Ted Nugent is calling on gun owners to shoot Democrats 'like coyotes'. This comes after weeks of harassing the Parkland shooting survivors and their march to DC.
Given the threats and the active encouragement of violence by Nugent to the NRA base, should he not be charged?
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Musician and NRA board member Ted Nugent likened Democrats, members of the media and others to “rabid coyotes” on Friday and suggested people should not wait to “get” their guns and “shoot” them on sight.
Nugent, a major proponent of gun rights and the Second Amendment, applied the same comparison to Hollywood and RINOS - the common acronym standing for Republicans in name only - during an interview on InfoWars’ The Alex Jones Show.
“Don’t ask why. Just know that evil, dishonesty, and scam artists have always been around and that right now they’re liberal, they’re Democrat, they’re RINOs, they’re Hollywood, they’re fake news, they’re media, they’re academia, and they’re half of our government, at least,” Nugent said according to conservative media watchdog Media Matters.
Nugent continued: “So come to that realization. There are rabid coyotes running around. You don’t wait till you see one to go get your gun. Keep your gun handy, and every time you see one, you shoot one.”
This could also go in the "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" thread but this one a bit more fitting- These "truthers" are freaking nuts. I can't imagine the stones it takes to tell someone that lost a loved one that they are just lying-
