Zeitgeist, 9/11, and Other Conspiracies

[Tower]

Originally Posted by jammies

Well hold me down, Martha, I think I'm having a epiphany!

A judge is not a judge. There is a hierarchy where you can appeal a judgment to more powerful courts all the way to the Supreme Court, and Justice Oddball McCrazypants who got elected by a bunch of hillbillies is not equivalent to Chief Justice John Roberts.

Besides which, there are tens of thousands of judges in the US (over three thousand federal judges alone), and ONE judge agreeing to hear a case - that is, not rule in favour of either side, but just hear the case - means just about nothing. That's why this story doesn't make the mainstream media: it's not important other than as a dubiously based publicity stunt for what appear to be a collection of racists, Know-Nothings and black helicopter-watching nutballs. Is that really the company you wish to keep?

Well what I see here is a Soilder who does not wish to fight for a ridiculous war. Has found his remedy and it was not be rebutted. Good for him. As far as racists... Ha ha ha hardly. I know who I am. I know why this is important.

I don't believe that last few presidents since after JFK have been true Presidents. Only Puppets. Obama is also a puppet. I don't care what others think nor can I control (or want to) what they say. Getting a DEFACTO President out of office is a great start. This takes Balls for a Judge to do what he is doing. Both are Defacto but still. He could just be an honest judge. This will depend on the hearing.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Tower

Well what I see here is a Soilder who does not wish to fight for a ridiculous war. Has found his remedy and it was not be rebutted. Good for him. As far as racists... Ha ha ha hardly. I know who I am. I know why this is important.

I don't believe that last few presidents since after JFK have been true Presidents. Only Puppets. Obama is also a puppet. I don't care what others think nor can I control (or want to) what they say. Getting a DEFACTO President out of office is a great start. This takes Balls for a Judge to do what he is doing. Both are Defacto but still. He could just be an honest judge. This will depend on the hearing.

I don't believe it either.

[KevanGuy]

Originally Posted by Tower

Antecent means 'previously existing'. If you can understand this concept, you can create an antecedent debt quite lawfully and although you might never collect on it, when the government tries collecting from you, you can defeat them by pointing out the aantecedent debt. (Yes I owe you 10 000. But you have owed me 1 000 000 for 3 years. Take the 10 000 off the 1 000 000 you owe me and see you next year!)

How to create an antecedent debt lawfully is the same way you would create any claim of debt. You present them with a bill charging them for services rendered. The services you charge them for this is the use of your "STRAWMAN/PERSON"for the last X years or for the fraud thay have perpetrated, or their misrepresentation.

That sure sounds like advice to me. As a MOD it concerns me when you write this line "I am not a lawyer, I study the law privately and this post is entertainment and can not be construed as advice." you seem to think it exonerates you from any responsibility related to you post. It is a type of trolling and, to be quite honest, not welcome here.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by Tower

I don't believe that last few presidents since after JFK have been true Presidents. Only Puppets. Obama is also a puppet. I don't care what others think nor can I control (or want to) what they say. Getting a DEFACTO President out of office is a great start.

What part of "it's never going to happen" needs to be made more explicit for you? For a man who wants everyone else to question their assumptions, you sure have a deathgrip on your own.

[Resolute 14]

This seems relevant: Conspiracy theory nutbar sues forum after members pointedly accuse him of being a conspiracy theory nutbar.

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/tec...0715-dl4t.html

[transplant99]

I know why this is important.

Really NOT important, hence why the media doesnt give it a second of their time.

[Azure]

Obama is better than Joe Biden.

That is all.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Tower

Well what I see here is a Soilder who does not wish to fight for a ridiculous war. Has found his remedy and it was not be rebutted. Good for him. As far as racists... Ha ha ha hardly. I know who I am. I know why this is important.

I don't believe that last few presidents since after JFK have been true Presidents. Only Puppets. Obama is also a puppet. I don't care what others think nor can I control (or want to) what they say. Getting a DEFACTO President out of office is a great start. This takes Balls for a Judge to do what he is doing. Both are Defacto but still. He could just be an honest judge. This will depend on the hearing.

I agree................JFK tried to end the Federal Reserve, or atleast cut its power down significantly. He also wanted to get rid of the CIA...........he was assassinated shortly thereafter. Conicidence? I think not.....

Every president since JFK has been a puppet for the banking/corprate establishment, and if they challenge it, they know their fate.........

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Tower

Well what I see here is a Soilder who does not wish to fight for a ridiculous war. Has found his remedy and it was not be rebutted. Good for him. As far as racists... Ha ha ha hardly. I know who I am. I know why this is important.

I don't believe that last few presidents since after JFK have been true Presidents. Only Puppets. Obama is also a puppet. I don't care what others think nor can I control (or want to) what they say. Getting a DEFACTO President out of office is a great start. This takes Balls for a Judge to do what he is doing. Both are Defacto but still. He could just be an honest judge. This will depend on the hearing.

I don't even think that JFK was a legitimate president, he was installed as the president by Satan himself to fullfull Joseph Kennedy's contract with him for Kennedy's soul. Then once it was fullfilled, Satan as a guy with an extreme sense of human threw tragedy after tragedy at the Kennedy family.

[Clever_Iggy]

Tower... you have no idea what you're talking about and placing a caveat at the beginning of your posts doesn't give you any credibility.

You study law privately? Sure thing. You cut and pasted a bunch of foundational common law definitions and tried to make yourself sound more complex or that you have broken down the veil of the legal world exposing it for what it really is. Really, those weren't your original ideas were they? They were taken from some crack pot website that you frequent that is maintained by unstable bipolars who are off their lithium, right? Do any of these websites encourage you to live "off the grid" and to prepare for the "eventual downfall of man?"

You're a troll. The only difference between you and the majority of trolls is you spend a lot of time at your craft.

Give it a rest and go back to putting aluminum foil on your head and digging your fall out shelter.

[Tower]

Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

Tower... you have no idea what you're talking about and placing a caveat at the beginning of your posts doesn't give you any credibility.

You study law privately? Sure thing. You cut and pasted a bunch of foundational common law definitions and tried to make yourself sound more complex or that you have broken down the veil of the legal world exposing it for what it really is. Really, those weren't your original ideas were they? They were taken from some crack pot website that you frequent that is maintained by unstable bipolars who are off their lithium, right? Do any of these websites encourage you to live "off the grid" and to prepare for the "eventual downfall of man?"

You're a troll. The only difference between you and the majority of trolls is you spend a lot of time at your craft.

Give it a rest and go back to putting aluminum foil on your head and digging your fall out shelter.

Ha ha ha your assumptions are a treat. bite bite bite "Mung!"

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by troutman

I don't know if this was linked here yet:

The Greatest Story Ever Garbled

by Tim Callahan

Perhaps the worst aspect of “The Greatest Story Ever Told,” Part I of Peter Joseph’s Internet film, Zeitgeist, is that some of what it asserts is true.

Zeitgeist is The Da Vinci Code on steroids.

http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/09-02-25

Reader comments follow . . .

Yep does a good job of showing that the Part 1 of Zeitgeist is almost completely fabricated rubbish. Of course that wasn't hard to find out, if you google certain phrases from the first part of Zeitgeist it leads you to an example essay about religious symbolism from an essay selling site. Clearly the author of Zeitgeist liberally stole from this example essay, and it wasn't a particularly compelling or well researched essay either.

I was surprised a friend of mine recommended watching Zeitgeist to me, especially after sitting through a laughable few minutes of its Part 1. Having taken some mythology and some courses about religion it struck me as highly, highly questionable and suspect. I guess he was more easily duped as some in this thread are.

I saw no point in even watching the rest as the makers of Zeitgeist lost all credibility with the first part. Anybody with a critical attitude towards bold truth claims likely couldn't stomach Zeitgeist at all.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Yep does a good job of showing that the Part 1 of Zeitgeist is almost completely fabricated rubbish. Of course that wasn't hard to find out, if you google certain phrases from the first part of Zeitgeist it leads you to an example essay about religious symbolism from an essay selling site. Clearly the author of Zeitgeist liberally stole from this example essay, and it wasn't a particularly compelling or well researched essay either.

I was surprised a friend of mine recommended watching Zeitgeist to me, especially after sitting through a laughable few minutes of its Part 1. Having taken some mythology and some courses about religion it struck me as highly, highly questionable and suspect. I guess he was more easily duped as some in this thread are.

I saw no point in even watching the rest as the makers of Zeitgeist lost all credibility with the first part. Anybody with a critical attitude towards bold truth claims likely couldn't stomach Zeitgeist at all.

I have seen a video where even Alex Jones rips the Zeitgeist creator about the religion part of his movie.............I think Alex is a christian.

I could not rip it because I have never been exposed to religious institution, but I thought the 9/11 and banking portions of the film were pretty solid.

Has anyone seen the film Religulous?...............any comment on it?

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Really NOT important, hence why the media doesnt give it a second of their time.

Haha.......I love this. The media decides what is important??

You have it all backwards man.........
To me, the mainstream media creates garbage entertainment (all in the name of the dollar of course) that distracts the public from paying attention to what their elected members and corporate leaders are actually doing........

I believe free press barely exists in North America nowadays. We are on a "need to know" basis....

But I guess celebrities, reality TV, and the latest flu pandemic hoaxes are what is really important.

[troutman]

Keith O. lets the Worst Person In The World have it (about 2:40 in):

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/...33984#31914146

[photon]

Tower, since you ignored the not so subtle hint I will state it plainly.

Remove your for entertainment disclaimer. If you are unable or unwilling to make a post that you can admit is your own opinion, then do not make that post. To hide behind a disclaimer makes it impossible to know if you are posting honestly or are posting just to get a response (trolling).

You have admitted to such before, so you can appreciate the requirement.

[Tower]

Originally Posted by photon

Tower, since you ignored the not so subtle hint I will state it plainly.

Remove your for entertainment disclaimer. If you are unable or unwilling to make a post that you can admit is your own opinion, then do not make that post. To hide behind a disclaimer makes it impossible to know if you are posting honestly or are posting just to get a response (trolling).

You have admitted to such before, so you can appreciate the requirement.

It was not my intention, I removed the part where one felt advice was given. Even though IMO i did not. I will remove entertainment.

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by Tower

this post can not be construed as advice.
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You never get a bill at a gas station. Or any other place. Strange isnt it! Without a true bill you have no obligation to pay! Not an invoice or a receipt. You can ask for a true bill. If that can not be produced you tell them that you have no obligation to pay!

It can't?

(edit: that can't be construed as advice?)

[Tower]

Originally Posted by Gozer

It can't?

(edit: that can't be construed as advice?)

nope

If I said "Gozer, you should go do this." Then yes it would be advice. But just for you I altered it.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by photon

Tower, since you ignored the not so subtle hint I will state it plainly.

Remove your for entertainment disclaimer. If you are unable or unwilling to make a post that you can admit is your own opinion, then do not make that post. To hide behind a disclaimer makes it impossible to know if you are posting honestly or are posting just to get a response (trolling).

You have admitted to such before, so you can appreciate the requirement.

Thank you.

I frickin' hate it when people post crap like this and claiming they're doing it just because its 'interesting.'