[Trade] Canucks trade Quinn Hughes to the Wild for 2026 1st, Rossi, Buium, and Ohgren

[activeStick]

I mean, everyone knows Rutherford controls things but to say this as if Allvin had more important things to focus on is hilarious

https://twitter.com/user/status/1999691256784650690

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by activeStick

I mean, everyone knows Rutherford controls things but to say this as if Allvin had more important things to focus on is hilarious

https://twitter.com/user/status/1999691256784650690

LOL, the GM is doing more important things that trading our franchise player.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Are people liking Vancouver's re-build more and giving them credit for leaning into it more, just because they used the word? Is that it? Because otherwise Calgary has made FAR more re-building moves at this stage than Vancouver.

I was just saying I like the trade because they got equivalent to a Parekh, and a 1st, and a decent younger center. For a player who was never going to re sign.

On top of that, they are set up to tank the rest of the year. If they tank properly and draft in the top 3, they will already be better positioned for the future than us (assuming we do not draft top 3 and do not trade our vets).

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I was just saying I like the trade because they got equivalent to a Parekh, and a 1st, and a decent younger center. For a player who was never going to re sign.

On top of that, they are set up to tank the rest of the year. If they tank properly and draft in the top 3, they will already be better positioned for the future than us (assuming we do not draft top 3 and do not trade our vets).

Why would you assume they are going to 'tank properly' and we're not? They have made their trade, and we still have our trades to make.

They are currently 32nd and we're 31st. And there are 50 more games to be played. Then a draft lottery. So no one has any idea yet where they will draft and where we will draft.

Suggesting they are going to draft top 3 and we're not is just empty whining.

Also, we are in better shape, rebuild-wise, than they are. Full stop.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Are people liking Vancouver's re-build more and giving them credit for leaning into it more, just because they used the word? Is that it? Because otherwise Calgary has made FAR more re-building moves at this stage than Vancouver.

They were in denial until basically like a month ago, so I don't know if you can reasonably compare it at this stage with the Flames' situation where they started like 2 years ago.

[activeStick]

Yes. Yes, the Canucks have a culture problem. Lol good him for asking the question even though it's obvious.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1999670080540672466

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Why would you assume they are going to 'tank properly' and we're not? They have made their trade, and we still have our trades to make.

They are currently 32nd and we're 31st. And there are 50 more games to be played. Then a draft lottery. So no one has any idea yet where they will draft and where we will draft.

Suggesting they are going to draft top 3 and we're not is just empty whining.

Also, we are in better shape, rebuild-wise, than they are. Full stop.

Because we have not even made our players available yet and we are playing well now. I am of the belief that the stooges at the top will not let us trade Kadri etc.

I believe we are the 4th best team in the league over the last month. We will likely finish closer to 10th last.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It's a flawed analysis because they weren't put to that decision. No one offered a top defenceman back.

If they were offered Werensky or Dahlin for Hughes it's a different decision.

I'm not sure you know all the offers they had. Not to mention, "what they are offered" is usually coloured by "what they are asking for." Also, what they pulled the trigger on is pretty telling.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Because we have not even made our players available yet and we are playing well now. I am of the belief that the stooges at the top will not let us trade Kadri etc.

I believe we are the 4th best team in the league over the last month. We will likely finish closer to 10th last.

I really hope 8-6-2 is not the 4th best team in the league over the past month.

If the Flames can play at that red hot pace over the remainder of the season they will finish with 84 points and if everyone else kept up the same pace they are currently on they would finish 7th last. I think it is doubtful the Flames can stay that red hot for the rest of the year though.

If they cool off ever so slightly and play .500 hockey the rest of the year and everyone else plays at the rate they are currently playing at they will finish 4th last.

If they go even cooler and play at a .487 rate and everyone else plays at their current rate they will finish 2nd last.

So don’t worry too much.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I was just saying I like the trade because they got equivalent to a Parekh, and a 1st, and a decent younger center. For a player who was never going to re sign.

On top of that, they are set up to tank the rest of the year. If they tank properly and draft in the top 3, they will already be better positioned for the future than us (assuming we do not draft top 3 and do not trade our vets).

Oh I like the deal too. I think they did great given the circumstances

[FanIn80]

Language, but also hilarity warning lol.

NSFW!

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Where the current bottom 5 finish, and in what order, is mostly a question of goaltending.

[Ashes]

It's way too premature to compare the Flames and Canucks rebuild right now, but of course the Hughes trades makes it front and centre in some peoples minds.

Will be a good exercise to go back and compare 3 years from now, or even at the end of this season once we see how many of the Flames vets are traded and what the early returns are.

At least wait to see the Andersson trade before trying to compare right now though. This Hughes trade was a haul and rightfully so.. you never see guys this good and this young traded in-season. This is certified blockbuster. I'm choosing to look at it as a good thing, as I think it boosts Andersson's value.

Even if you got half of this haul for Andersson I think we'd all be thrilled (Rossi & 1st, or Buium & 1st, or any combination really, even though I'm not familiar with the third guy).

Hopefully this is the domino that gets teams making moves early though, or at least gets people picking up the phones and getting deal frameworks sorted out. Cool trade to see honestly.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

I'm not sure you know all the offers they had. Not to mention, "what they are offered" is usually coloured by "what they are asking for." Also, what they pulled the trigger on is pretty telling.

I know what the rumoured NJ offer was and I doubt anyone else was seriously involved. Do you seriously think there was an equivalent star defenceman and a very strong veteran forward offered? Because that's what Florida traded (just reversing the positions). Equivalent defenceman being someone like Heiskenan or Werensky.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I was just saying I like the trade because they got equivalent to a Parekh, and a 1st, and a decent younger center. For a player who was never going to re sign.

On top of that, they are set up to tank the rest of the year. If they tank properly and draft in the top 3, they will already be better positioned for the future than us (assuming we do not draft top 3 and do not trade our vets).

Why would you assume that about the Flames. We know Andersson is pretty much gone. That's as many vets as Vancouver has traded, and right now Calgary is drating high. Almost as high as Vancouver.

Calgary's made more moves than Vancouver that meet your game plan, you just want to credit Vancouver more.

Vancouver also had to trade the one player you'd want to keep in a rebuild. It's like Calgary trading Wolf.

[kehatch]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Are people liking Vancouver's re-build more and giving them credit for leaning into it more, just because they used the word? Is that it? Because otherwise Calgary has made FAR more re-building moves at this stage than Vancouver.

The Canucks traded two superstars that still had term left. The Flames traded guys on expiring deals nearly two years ago and have done almost nothing since.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by kehatch

The Canucks traded two superstars that still had term left. The Flames traded guys on expiring deals nearly two years ago and have done almost nothing since.

Do you think Vancouver was rebuilding when they dealt Miller? They were also kinda forced to move him
And after the Miller deal they also traded a first to Pittsburgh
Why didn’t you mention that one?

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Why would you assume that about the Flames. We know Andersson is pretty much gone. That's as many vets as Vancouver has traded, and right now Calgary is drating high. Almost as high as Vancouver.

Calgary's made more moves than Vancouver that meet your game plan, you just want to credit Vancouver more.

Vancouver also had to trade the one player you'd want to keep in a rebuild. It's like Calgary trading Wolf.

I think in the prospects thread we were ranked 18th and Vancover 23rd? So I don't know if it is much of a stretch to say with an added 1st and top 3 pick they would jump past us.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I think in the prospects thread we were ranked 18th and Vancover 23rd? So I don't know if it is much of a stretch to say with an added 1st and top 3 pick they would jump past us.

Is that the ranking that excluded Parekh?
The Flames also have two firsts this year and potential for a high pick

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Are people liking Vancouver's re-build more and giving them credit for leaning into it more, just because they used the word? Is that it? Because otherwise Calgary has made FAR more re-building moves at this stage than Vancouver.

This is such a silly argument because when the Flames were forced to start making rebuilding trades the Canucks won the division. In terms of rebuilding related trades the flames haven’t made one of those since the summer of 2024 when they shipped off Markstrom and Mangiapane.

The Canucks appear to be starting their rebuild now when the Flames are in there third season since starting to tear it down