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Old 11-14-2024, 03:05 AM   #441
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Would Jamie Benn with even more offensive upside be a good comparable to Martone?
I personally like the comparisons to the Tkachuk brothers. Jamie Benn is too slow, lol.
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Old 11-14-2024, 10:59 AM   #442
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Pronman's latest ranking is out. (paywall)
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/589...agens-martone/

Also the lowest ranking for Ryabkin I have seen at #24
He doesn't say why he has Ryabkin lower than others. Mostly positive sounding evaluation, other than the slow start

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Ryabkin was an impactful player at the Russian junior level as a 16-year-old but has been off to a slow start to this season. He’s a very likeable player who ticks most of the boxes scouts want. He skates well. He has a ton of skill and ability to improvise with the puck. He sees the ice at a high level and makes difficult passes consistently. He has a good shot and can finish plays from range and at the net. He competes quite hard and looks to use his body to win pucks. Other than an average-sized frame, there is no noticeable hole in his game.
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Old 11-14-2024, 11:02 AM   #443
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Button's list for 2026
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/craig-s-list-...raft-1.2205160

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After lighting up the WHL last season as a rookie with 34 goals and 97 points in 61 games to claim CHL and WHL rookie of the year honours, the Medicine Hat Tigers forward is off to a torrid start this season, leading the league with 37 points in 19 games.

“McKenna could’ve been the first pick last year, he’d be the first pick this year and there’s no doubt who the first pick is next year,” said Button. “He is one of the very best players outside the NHL. What I see in him is an IQ off the charts and a brilliance that has no limits.”
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I can;t unsee those nostrils in that picture TSN has, and he looks 16 going on 40.
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Old 11-14-2024, 12:16 PM   #445
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I can;t unsee those nostrils in that picture TSN has, and he looks 16 going on 40.
A great kid and a phenomenal hockey talent and this is all you can come up with for a comment in response to him being called one of the best hockey players not in the NHL? Scumbag internet toxicity at it's worst
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Friggen Cosentino and his big mouth pimping my darkhorse O'brien makes me evil
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Friggen Cosentino and his big mouth pimping my darkhorse O'brien makes me evil
This draft's Cal Ritchie.
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Damn it get pretty thin on Centers after the top 10
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Old 11-15-2024, 05:25 PM   #449
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Damn it get pretty thin on Centers after the top 10
well after like the top 7 or 8. Getting to keep our pick if its the top 10 really isnt going to be enough to be able to get the center we need.
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Old 11-15-2024, 10:59 PM   #450
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Are we starting to look at the prospects in the 25-32 range?
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Old 11-16-2024, 12:32 AM   #451
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This draft's Cal Ritchie.
Beginning of the year I hoped he would be a target with our late 1st's but it's unlikely now, O'brien might go top 10 when all is said and done.

I'm now switching gears in hopes for a R-shot center in the late 1st, Brady Martin is looking good as is Luca Romano
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Are we starting to look at the prospects in the 25-32 range?
We should be, we're almost certainly going to have a pick in that range, no matter how things play out (probably NJD's, maybe FLA's, maybe ours)
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Sandman's Draft Preliminary Rankings (Top-100)

1) C James Hagens
2) RW Porter Martone
3) C Mike Misa
4) D Matt Schaefer
5) C Roger McQueen
6) C Anton Frondell
7) D Jackson Smith
8) C Ivan Ryabkin
9) LW Victor Eklund
10) C Caleb Desnoyers
11) LW Malcolm Spence
12) C Will Moore
13) D Logan Hensler
14) RW Justin Carbonneau
15) C Jake O'Brien
16) C Carter Bear
17) D Radim Mrtka
18) LW Nathan Behm
19) C Brady Martin
20) D Cameron Reid
21) D Kashawn Aitcheson
22) C Jack Murtagh
23) LW Lynden Lakovic
24) G Josh Ravensbergen
25) D Charlie Trethewey
26) D Blake Fiddler
27) LW Cole Reschny
28) LW Jacob Ihs-Wozniak
29) C Braeden Cootes
30) C Milton Gastrin
31) RW Cam Schmidt
32) LW Bill Zonnon


33) C Tyler Hopkins
34) D Kurban Limatov
35) RW Shane Vansaghi
36) LW Emile Guite'
37) RW Ben Kevan
38) C Cole McKinney
39) D Sascha Boumedienne
40) LW Zachary Morin
41) C Conrad Fondrk
42) G Jack Ivankovic
43) D Alex Huang
44) C Jack Nesbitt
45) D Jesper Kotajarvi
46) RW Ben Kindel
47) C Jordan Gavin
48) LW Cullen Potter
49) D Carter Amico
50) C Luca Romano
51) D Owen Conrad
52) D Will Sharpe
53) F Melvin Novotny
54) C Eric Nilson
55) RW Eddie Genborg
56) D Carson Cameron
57) G Love Haremstam
58) LW Tomas Poletin
59) RW Travis Hayes
60) D Dakoda Rheaume-Mullen
61) D Henry Brzustewicz
62) G Semyon Frolov
63) LW Mason Moe
64) D Reese Hamilton


65) LW Max Westergard
66) D Luka Radivojevic
67) LW David Lewandowski
68) C Adam Benak
69) C Jan Chovan
70) C Tomas Pobezal
71) C Liam Kilfoil
72) C Mikkel Eriksen
73) D Asher Barnett
74) C Oscar Davidsson
75) C Phillippe Veilleux
76) LW Filip Ekberg
77) G Pyotr Andreyanov
78) D Karl Annborn
79) C Dominik Pavlik
80) D Noah Laberge
81) RW Aiden Lane
82) D Oliwer Sjostrom
83) D Maxim Agafonov
84) D Artyom Vilchinsky
85) RW Sam Spehar
86) G Isak Sorqvist
87) C/RW Vit Zahejsky
88) RW Tanner Lam
89) G Gabriel D'Aigle
90) LW Viktor Klingsell
91) LW Ruslan Karimov
92) G Ondrej Stebetak
93) RW LJ Mooney
94) D Lasse Boelius
95) C Michal Svrcek
96) RW Ryker Lee


97) RW Vaclav Nestrasil
98) D Edison Engle
99) D Malte Vass
100) LW Yegor Murashev

Hope I didn't forget anyone....

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Old 11-17-2024, 04:38 AM   #454
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Nov.16th:

-Mike Misa is tops in the OHL scoring race, with 21gp/23g/19a/42pts,+17, 8 PIM. He is 5 points ahead of the next highest scorer, and he's ahead in goal-scoring by 6. He is also tied for 4th in plus/minus.

-Martone has 5 points in his last 2 games, after going pointless in his previous two games. He is second in OHL scoring, and 4th in goals, with 18gp/16g/21a/37pts,+10, 32 PIM. He is also 16th in PIM.

-C Jake O'Brien has racked up 11 points in his last 4 games after a slow start to the season, and is showing off his goal-scoring prowess with 4 goals in that span. 19gp/10g/13a/23pts,+1, 6 PIM, tied for 23rd in OHL scoring.

-Only 1 point in the last 8 games for C Jack Nesbitt, who has fallen to 20gp/10g/6a/16pts,+6, 9 PIM.

-In the month of November, D Matt Schaefer has 12 points in 8 games, to put him at 11gp/4g/11a/15pts,+11, 6 PIM.

-RW Bill Zonnon has moved into 6th place in Q scoring, with 21gp/11g/20a/31pts,+11, 10 PIM, after posting 12 points in 6 games in November. He's rising quickly, and will continue to ascend the draft board.

-RW Justin Carbonneau is tied for 8th in Q scoring, with 20gp/11g/18a/29pts,-4, 18 PIM, after 8 points in 5 games so far in November.

-C Caleb Desnoyers is tied for 14th in Q scoring, with 17gp/13g/13a/26pts,+18, 8 PIM, after putting up 11 points in 6 games in November. He is 8th in goals, and 2nd in plus/minus.

-LW Emile Guite' continues to disappoint, with only 1 point in his last 8 games, to put him at 20gp/4g/5a/9pts,even, 6 PIM.

-C Carter Bear is now second in WHL scoring, with 20gp/19g/16a/35pts,+17, 16 PIM, after 14 points in his last 6 games. He is also tied for 2nd in goals, and 9th in plus/minus. He's looking like a riser.

-RW Cam Schmidt is tied for 4th in scoring, but is first in goals, with 19gp/22g/11a/33pts,+3, 14 PIM, after piling up 10 goals and 13 points in his last 6 games.

-After 8 points in his last 7 games, LW Nathan Behm has slipped to 11th in WHL scoring, with 20gp/14g/16a/30pts,+13, 10 PIM.

-C Ben Kindel has racked up 9 points in 8 games in November, and sits in a tie for 17th in WHL scoring with 21gp/13g/15a/28pts,-1, 12 PIM. Excellent production, considering he plays for a mediocre Hitmen squad.
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Really hope we win the draft lottery or somehow find ourselves picking in the Top 5. Looks like some real home runs at the top of the draft
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Im starting to see Misa as the clear cut 1 OA this draft. I don't fully know the comps and maths that compare NCAA output vs CHL output but Misa is tracking to make scoring records reachable.
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Im starting to see Misa as the clear cut 1 OA this draft. I don't fully know the comps and maths that compare NCAA output vs CHL output but Misa is tracking to make scoring records reachable.
Yet the "experts" have him behind Hagens and Martone and some behind Schaffer.

I don't think anyone at this stage is the clear cut #1.

I do know it won't be simply who gets the most points.
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Brock Otten who closely follows the OHL released his preliminary top 50 OHL prospects and has Misa, Schaefer, and Martone as his top 3 in that order:

https://ohlprospects.blogspot.com/20...nhl-draft.html

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As of writing this, Misa leads the OHL in both overall scoring and goal scoring. Simply put, he’s been the best player in the OHL this year, finally emerging as the dynamic and consistent play driver he was drafted to be (as an exceptional status player). Coming into the year, the criticism among scouts was fairly consistent, they wanted to see him step out of the shadows as a complementary piece with Saginaw to be the team’s primary offensive catalyst. He’s answered that call. So why is Misa my number one in an incredibly strong, top heavy crop from the region? I love Misa’s overall game and the way that it projects to the NHL. People speak about Porter Martone’s complete game as being the reason that he should be a first overall candidate, but I’d actually argue that Misa’s attention to detail, competitiveness, and two-way game is more consistent than Martone's. He’s one of the league’s best two-way players and with added strength, we’re seeing him more dialed and effective physically. There’s absolutely no question in my mind that he can stick down the middle as an NHL center. With improvements made to every part of his game, Misa is a serious contender to supplant James Hagens as a potential first overall selection…at least in my opinion. He does everything Hagens can do, but is bigger and more consistent off the puck.
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Im starting to see Misa as the clear cut 1 OA this draft. I don't fully know the comps and maths that compare NCAA output vs CHL output but Misa is tracking to make scoring records reachable.
I would personally take Misa over Hagens, and I wouldn’t cry if we took him over Martone, either.
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I would personally take Misa over Hagens, and I wouldn’t cry if we took him over Martone, either.
Hockey DB says he’s a LW. Is this true ? His stats are nuts.
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