[Trade] Flames trade Zadorov to Canucks for 24 5th and 26 3rd

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I get the theory that the Flames will be able to take back contract at the deadline. And I want to believe it. But two problems:

1) Teams gearing up for a playoff run stockpile veterans, they don’t deal them away. I’m struggling to think of a sizeable contract moved at the deadline by the buyer.

2) If you look at the contending that are likely looking at Lindholm, Hanifin, and Tane, their rosters are chock full of NTC/NMCs. Hard to imagine a Coyle, Carlo, or Suter waiving to go a non-playoff Canadian team.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/mapleleafs

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/mapleleafs

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/bruins

So where are these contracts that the Flames need to make space for? I’m struggling to find a likely candidate.

What if WSH offers you a haul for Lindholm, but only if you take Kuznetsov off their hands for example?

I hope the Flames take bad contracts back this year if it helps them get a much higher return.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

He was our 5th best defencemen.
But I also find it amusing when people are trying to pretend he wasn't a good skater or physical presence.
It's ok to admit what he did well and he was the best defencemen on the team in those 2 regards.

The return is underwhelming and he'll be a perfect fit for Vancouver, but I'll reserve judgement overall until we see what Conroy's big picture is with the cap space.

Is Z a better skater than Hanifin?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Phaneuf_Phan

Probably, let's face it the Flames D sucks overall. Zadorov still the best overall defenceman. Hate me but I only speak the truth.

Lol if he was the best dman he wouldn’t be 5th place in terms of minutes

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

He was our 5th best defencemen.
But I also find it amusing when people are trying to pretend he wasn't a good skater or physical presence.
It's ok to admit what he did well and he was the best defencemen on the team in those 2 regards.

The return is underwhelming and he'll be a perfect fit for Vancouver, but I'll reserve judgement overall until we see what Conroy's big picture is with the cap space.

No one said he wasn’t a good skater. I only said Hanifin is better and I stand by that (Weegar ain’t bad either). And I said he hasn’t played well since the trade request (Toronto game) and I couldn't remember his last big hit. I assume he’s had some this year but it was sure a while ago. He also had a nice wrister. But didn’t score this year like before.

[Fan in Exile]

Given the reports of a market for him that's not much of a return

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Another beer, and now listening to Conroy’s interview on Flames talk.

Hearing Conroy say:


As a Flames fan who wants the team to turn the page and build something new? That’s perfect. Make use of those 3 retention slots on the better players (Tanev, Hanifin, Lindholm).

Sounds like Conroy has a handle on things.

For sure, but retaining on Zadorov IMO didn't make much sense. I think the fair question is why trade now given the return.

Conroy doesn't need cap space to retain on those other guys, he needs cap space to take on some contracts. We'll see what he has in mind for that.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Goriders

So now that Big Z is gone what are we left with

Anderson Weegar
Hanifin Tanev
Gilbert Orsterle
Desimone??

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Is Z a better skater than Hanifin?

Hanifin is such a smooth skater it’s less noticeable, sort of like Hamilton was. Plus he doesn’t try to go end to end all the time. But IMO Hanifin was a superior skater.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

For sure, but retaining on Zadorov IMO didn't make much sense. I think the fair question is why trade now given the return.



Conroy doesn't need cap space to retain on those other guys, he needs cap space to take on some contracts. We'll see what he has in mind for that.

My guess is to get a guy that doesn't want to be here, that put down his teammates in interviews, the hell out of the dressing room. The cap space has value too.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Oh please. I'm not high on Zadorov but if he was a replacement level player there certainly wouldn't have been all these teams that were interested in him.

Don’t challenge Wally’s reality
She will call you a bully

[topfiverecords]

The only good thing about this trade is I won’t have to hear Seravalli pronouncing his name ZADDorov anymore.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

The only good thing about this trade is I won’t have to hear Seravalli pronouncing his name ZADDorov anymore.

Well you're all pronouncing it wrong anyways with your soft Rs.

[Psytic]

Not sure I want to do a sell off if this is all Conroy can get. Feels super underwhelming on both of his trades. I would have sat on Z for more. There was no rush. Yikes.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Is Z a better skater than Hanifin?

Z is better at rushing with the puck, Hanifin is better in his overall movement and positioning within the game, particularly on defence.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Another beer, and now listening to Conroy’s interview on Flames talk.

Hearing Conroy say:


As a Flames fan who wants the team to turn the page and build something new? That’s perfect. Make use of those 3 retention slots on the better players (Tanev, Hanifin, Lindholm).

Sounds like Conroy has a handle on things.

Promises promises

Mean nothing until he makes good use of the cap space

[Muta]

Was initially underwhelmed, but then I thought screw it - this team strikes homeruns in the 4th round all the time, so why not flip that 3rd for two 4th's sometime and draft us some superstars. Let's gooooooo

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

For sure, but retaining on Zadorov IMO didn't make much sense. I think the fair question is why trade now given the return.

Conroy doesn't need cap space to retain on those other guys, he needs cap space to take on some contracts. We'll see what he has in mind for that.

Could be more moves coming especially if we retain capspace to do it.

[GioforPM]

As far as his play goes, over the last couple weeks whereas every single other player on the Flames except maybe Ruzicka has looked better than early on, Zadorov has looked worse.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Z is better at rushing with the puck, Hanifin is better in his overall movement and positioning within the game, particularly on defence.

Yeah Hanifin has the much better edges. He turns a lot more swiftly and has a much faster first stride. Z has a better top speed once he hits his stride. Hanifin is also better at skating backwards, and maintaining a better gap.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Zadorov was the team’s snappiest dresser. Thoughts and prayers to his tailor.

I believe he was still using his tailor from Denver anyway