WCSF - Colorado Avalanche (2) vs. Dallas Stars (3)

[JohnnyB]

I agree with the play-in/round robin stats needing an asterisk. The cup winner won't, because they will still have gone through a full playoffs against the best in the league, but the player stats counting the play-in round seems wrong to me because it is all extra and separated from the regular playoffs.

Regardless, MacKinnon is a powerhouse. He is an extremely impressive player. I suspect that if the Avs make it to the finals his stats will be among the best of best even with consideration given to the unusual circumstances this year.

Playing an 11 seed also doesn't matter to me, because that 11 seed outplayed a sixth seed to get in, after which their previous 11th place ranking doesn't mean much anymore.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Did those guys play a round against the 11 seed? no?

They played the 7th seed?

If you’re inferring pre-stoppage position, it doesn’t really matter. Colorado and Arizona we’re separately by less points than Pittsburgh and Ottawa when Crosby went on a run.

Plenty of teams in the playoffs have played teams 20+ points behind them. Going by arbitrary seeding numbers doesn’t tell anything about the quality of the teams involved. Does that mean a 4th seed playing a 5th seed should have their points count more than a 1st playing an 8th?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Yiiiiikkkkesss. His sock sliced wide open.

[bluejays]

Clearly Landeskog got cut above the knee. The original replay showed that. Definitely showed it cutting the sock. Hope he’s alright.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

I agree with the play-in/round robin stats needing an asterisk. The cup winner won't, because they will still have gone through a full playoffs against the best in the league, but the player stats counting the play-in round seems wrong to me because it is all extra and separated from the regular playoffs.

Regardless, MacKinnon is a powerhouse. He is an extremely impressive player. I suspect that if the Avs make it to the finals his stats will be among the best of best even with consideration given to the unusual circumstances this year.

Playing an 11 seed also doesn't matter to me, because that 11 seed outplayed a sixth seed to get in, after which their previous 11th place ranking doesn't mean much anymore.

Agreed.

they showed a graphic that Makar and Hughes are both close to the playoff scoring record for rookie defensemen. the record is 16, Makar now has 15 and Hughes has 14. But Hughes had 6 points in the play-in round, so really, he only has 8. Big difference.

Makar had 1 pt in the round robin BTW.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

They played the 7th seed?

If you’re inferring pre-stoppage position, it doesn’t really matter. Colorado and Arizona we’re separately by less points than Pittsburgh and Ottawa when Crosby went on a run.

Plenty of teams in the playoffs have played teams 20+ points behind them. Going by arbitrary seeding numbers doesn’t tell anything about the quality of the teams involved. Does that mean a 4th seed playing a 5th seed should have their points count more than a 1st playing an 8th?

It matters 100% to me because without covid the Yotes aren't in the playoffs and round robin games counting as playoff stats is ridiculous


Its no mystery why so many records are being broken/close to broken lately

These playoffs are like comparing apples and oranges. Nathan MacKinnon is having an amazing playoffs I'm not debating that but if we are going there McDavid had 9 playoff points without making the playoffs

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

I'm in agreement that this playoffs either shouldn't count for "total stats in a playoffs" records, or more reasonably, that you start counting after the qualifying round. Obviously you're going to be able to score more when you play more games. I don't have a problem with rate stats though - e.g., "x points in first 10 playoff games" - because I do think the qualifying round games were played like legitimate playoff games. I don't think that about the round robin games.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Yiiiiikkkkesss. His sock sliced wide open.

Paul Maurice blame Tkachuck yet

[Mass_nerder]

It must be difficult for Principe to shift from his typical clown show to acting like an actual reporter.

[MrMike]

Can’t they make some knife proof socks? Or is that only stab proof not slice proof?

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by MrMike

Can’t they make some knife proof socks? Or is that only stab proof not slice proof?

Kevlar, just not sure about how well it breathes. Don't they already have Kevlar socks?

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

Kevlar, just not sure about how well it breathes. Don't they already have Kevlar socks?

According to Bieksa, they exist, and the practice socks use Kevlar, but not game socks.

[flylock shox]

Geez, Makar is like the MacKinnon of defence.

[Mass_nerder]

I think I must not understand high sticking.
Last night, Barzal got the stick under the visor and it wasn't a penalty because it was a follow through. Then Cole's stick gets Dickinson as he's falling, and that's a penalty because.. it wasn't a follow through? So you only have to be in control of your stick if you're not shooting? Is it a penalty is you hit someone with your stick on a wind-up to a shot?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

According to Bieksa, they exist, and the practice socks use Kevlar, but not game socks.

Seems like you’d want the opposite.... can anyone recall a single example of someone sustaining a laceration like this in a practice?

[Mass_nerder]

I guess they don't want to take unnecessary risks in practice, but during games... Aesthetics win out over safety? Can kevlar not be dyed/manufactured in a variety of colors? Or is it that is doesn't breathe?
Who knows.

[bluejays]

re: Kevlar, I don't fully know the answer of why it's not done but all of us have used the kevlar neck guards, and at times it can be a bit itchy and hot. I don't know if that's the kevlar itself, a chemical reaction, or just the fact that something is around your neck, but I imagine breathing isn't the problem but the way water would whisk or lack of whisking away. With respect to the neck guard I don't recall the thing getting wet. If socks soak up the sweat and evaporate the sweat, while kevlar would just let it go to your feet, I'm not sure that would be the most pleasant feel. That could be it.

[Winsor_Pilates]

I think Colorado wins game 7 now; they have all of the momentum and confidence.

The best forward and arguably the best young defensemen in the league on the same team. They are what Edmonton wishes you were.

[ResAlien]

This will be back to back years dallas has blown a 3-1 series lead right?

[bluejays]

Dallas weren't that good to begin with. I thought at the start of the playoffs, Colorado was the one to beat. Unfortunately during this series there's been a couple games they were sloppy. Dallas has come back getting some really lucky breaks (though I guess hard work does sometimes come into play). Dallas just isn't as quick or crisp as Colorado. The one advantage is both their goaltending and defence overall are better. Forwards, no chance.