[PGT] Flames 5 Oilers 7

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

I think what people are getting mixed up is the fire and brimstone, paint peeling motivator (I think guys like Tortarella fit this) and the master manipulator (Think Scotty Bowman) style coaches. You don't need to yell and scream to motivate professionals. You DO however need to find their buttons, and push it from time to time. That is what separates the good from the great IMO.

I don't know where the quote was, but I think it was Amonte or Roenick (maybe even Suter) that told a story about how when Sutter coached in Chicago. They were having a bad game, and Sutter grabbed one of their sticks, grabbed a pen, and wrote "work" across the blade and handed it back. No words, no speeches, no yelling; just a small message saying you were taking a night off and it wasn't acceptable. THAT is what a guy like Sutter does, and that's why players play for him. He finds what motivates the individual player, and exposes it.

I just don't see GG being that type of coach.

I can't remember exactly but maybe someone else but there was quote from an LA player that Sutter was giving players assignments during games that made them very focused on the task. He constantly challenges his players to meet higher expectations calls them out if they take nights off but he is first to praise his team if they lose but they work their tails off. A lot of times losses are just lack of overall effort and if you don't push that effort consistently players can get sloppy or take nights off.

We have some players who give poor efforts but when we are seeing it more often than not you start to wonder if it was addressed? Are they being challenged? Kind if fits with what your saying about motivating- pushing buttons.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

You know, I get that people are upset at GG, and that's fine he deserves some of the ire that's sent his way.

But honestly people that think that coaches have to stand up at the start of the game and make grand motivational speeches to get players fired up to go out on the ice are following a fictional narrative.

Remember Darryl Sutter and how he motivated the Flames?

The below is what's missing in the dressing room

Into the visitors’ dressing room, he stomps. Conversation stops.

Clutched in the boss’s hand is a copy of the local newspaper.

What is Darryl Sutter up to? Nobody has a clue — which, of course, is how the old cowboy wants it.

Sutter snaps open the paper, showing his players the headline, which, in a screamingly large type size, forecasts a series breeze for the Detroit Red Wings.

“(Those letters were) huge — 4-0. SWEEP,” says Craig Conroy. “He’s like, ‘We’re already swept, guys. I guess we should just go home.’ He made a little joke. But he was serious.”

Point made, Sutter places the offending broadsheet on a shelf.

“No one threw the paper away,” says Conroy. “It just sat there.”

Hours later, the Calgary Flames return to the dressing room, 2-1 victors at Joe Louis Arena. Sutter marches back in, snatches the newspaper.

“He says, ‘You know how much this is worth?’ and he threw it in the garbage,” says Conroy. “He said, ‘They don’t just get to win four in a row. We can beat these guys.’ We were like, ‘You know what? He’s right.’ The more we won, the more we believed.”

Which was exactly how Sutter ran the Flames — his Flames.

Commodore recalls Sutter targeting Conroy one night before a contest, needling him relentlessly, until . . . .

“Craig exploded and started screaming at Darryl,” he says. “Connie was riled — I thought his head was going to explode. Then Darryl started clapping and said, ‘Here we go.’ And out of the dressing room (we went).

“I was like, ‘Oh my god.’ But we won the game.”

http://www.calgaryherald.com/sports/...198/story.html

[bubbsy]

Man, not commenting on the game anymore, not critiquing gulutzan, or making any kind of commentary on whether a guy like sutter should take over the job. But, reading Sutter coaching stories are honestly one of my favourites.

If there's a player who was here for the Sutter tenure, a guy like Regehr, warrener, etc, was willing to write a book just on the sutter time from when he came in, thru to the end of that magical playoff run, i'd be so excited to buy it.

[DeluxeMoustache]

I always got a kick out of Sutter’s interviews too. Dusting off an old one from his GM days

“What are the prospects of the Flames making a deal before the deadline?"
"We're not trading any prospects."

Someone should write a book about him