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Old 06-21-2017, 04:51 PM   #441
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Would he not have had to be protected if he had a NTC?
No. Only players with NMCs required protection. A NTC is different.
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Old 06-21-2017, 04:59 PM   #442
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Why would Vegas trade a young goal scorer for Brouwer when they could have just taken him for free? Also Brouwer has a full NTC
The plus was kind of the key to that statement - Brouwer would be the piece to make cap work. Plus his contract is 2 years shorter and $500k cheaper for the Knights.

I question why Smith was available for free to Vegas to start with so who knows what NHL GMs are thinking.
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Old 06-21-2017, 05:02 PM   #443
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Still early to see what the other side deals are, but definitely some head-scratcher picks from VGK. We'll see I guess...
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Old 06-21-2017, 05:03 PM   #444
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Scary bad roster, apart from the goaltending. I envy their goaltending.
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I question why Smith was available for free to Vegas to start with so who knows what NHL GMs are thinking.
Seems to be because they valued their young defensemen more highly than a winger coming off a disappointing year and thus went with the 1-8 protection. Most GMs and teams seem to value top 4 defensemen over 2nd line scoring wingers
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Old 06-21-2017, 05:05 PM   #446
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Still a better looking roster than the Canucks
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Old 06-21-2017, 05:06 PM   #447
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Is the OP accurate or has anyone actually been selected officially yet. If not, does that start at 6 or are the award first?
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Old 06-21-2017, 05:08 PM   #448
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McPhee is a highly skilled GM who built the Capitals into what they are today.

Making a statement like this before you even know what other talent they have gotten to chose the players they have chosen is premature.

Do you honestly feel that you could have done a better job?
I don't know if I would have done a better job but I would have taken a different approach. I would have chosen to lock up a couple more of the top players on the unprotected list instead of taking draft picks and guys like Berube. NYI, in particular, had a lot of attractive players to take.
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Old 06-21-2017, 05:08 PM   #449
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Seems to be because they valued their young defensemen more highly than a winger coming off a disappointing year and thus went with the 1-8 protection. Most GMs and teams seem to value top 4 defensemen over 2nd line scoring wingers
That doesn't explain why you send Marchessault and Smith to Las Vegas though.

Only why they protected 4-4-1 to start with.

Edit: Mackenzie just tweeted that Marchessault had to be included to get Vegas to take Smith. Seems crazy that they needed to "throw in" a 30 goal scorer t get rid of that contract. I'll take that contract as a Flames fan.

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Old 06-21-2017, 05:09 PM   #450
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Is the OP accurate or has anyone actually been selected officially yet. If not, does that start at 6 or are the award first?
Nope, I've just been making stuff up all day.
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So far just MAF and JF Berube as the goalies?

Must have taken Pickard from COL since they left Raanta and Grubauer alone.
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So far just MAF and JF Berube as the goalies?

Must have taken Pickard from COL since they left Raanta and Grubauer alone.
Eddie Lack.
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Old 06-21-2017, 05:10 PM   #453
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To be clear Lack was speculation from Friedman yesterday. Haven't seen anyone confirm it yet today.
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Is the OP accurate or has anyone actually been selected officially yet. If not, does that start at 6 or are the award first?
Nothing has been announced officially, but Vegas had to get their picks into the League by 8:00am MT this morning.

All the teams have been informed as to which player has been chosen from their team, and the GMs have been calling those selected players to let them know.

Once that started happening, various media members started getting information from their various sources (likely the players' agents and/or the teams' GMs).
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Has anyone more reputable confirmed Engelland yet?
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That doesn't explain why you send Marchessault and Smith to Las Vegas though.
Be interesting to see if there's more to it and FLA gets anything back. Doesn't make a ton of sense to me as is. Speculation I've heard is that FLA wanted to cut salary and used Marchessault to entice VGK to take Smith. If true then maybe Smith and Marchessault don't really have much value.

Something is weird with that rumour
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Old 06-21-2017, 05:14 PM   #458
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Has anyone more reputable confirmed Engelland yet?
They had him listed on the Vegas roster on TSN (That's Hockey) just a few minutes ago.
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Old 06-21-2017, 05:15 PM   #459
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Be interesting to see if there's more to it and FLA gets anything back. Doesn't make a ton of sense to me as is. Speculation I've heard is that FLA wanted to cut salary and used Marchessault to entice VGK to take Smith. If true then maybe Smith and Marchessault don't really have much value.

Something is weird with that rumour
Yup - you'd have to think that somebody would be interested in Smith at his contract. Not a bad enough deal to have to entice somebody to take him IMO.

Also makes me wonder if you could pry Demers out of Florida on the cheap too due to budget constraints. Would look good on our second pairing next to Brodie.

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yeah this is really hard to follow along as to actual picks or rumours or part way through picking or haven't even started yet etc.
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