2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Icon

Nixing a deal before the deadline is different than in the off season though.

He undoubtedly thought Boston had a better chance at a 2024 cup run than LA.

Going forward though could be a different story.

Who knows why he would nix LA either. It might not be a West thing, just an avoidance of a hectic market and he prefers something more low-key? Could be anything, really.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Icon

Nixing a deal before the deadline is different than in the off season though.

He undoubtedly thought Boston had a better chance at a 2024 cup run than LA.

Going forward though could be a different story.

Yeah, if Boston also makes it clear they aren't re-signing him then he may want to take his bag in the summer and not gamble on free agency


I really hope Sec's gifs aren't related to Necas lol

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

The main obstacle will be Ullmark

If he forces the bruins to trade in-conference a 10th oa pick I imagine would appeal to them.

That's probably who Fitz messages was aimed at as well.

I think markstrom is option 2 or 3.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by jayswin

The tickets to Flames games are so overpriced that even lowering them 20% wouldn't move the needle on getting people to go down to the Dome during lean years.

The thing is though and what everyone should understand pretty clearly is that when the new barn opens in 3 years, they are going to be asking much higher ticket prices. If there is no excitement around this team, that is essentially a disaster in the making. Imagine an empty building it its first year.

Now, imagine the team with a couple young stars on the rise. Some exciting prospects, an Iginla or 2, etc.

Even if they are not back in the playoff picture, the place would still be full. Everyone in that organization better know and understand this.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Yeah, if Boston also makes it clear they aren't re-signing him then he may want to take his bag in the summer and not gamble on free agency


I really hope Sec's gifs aren't related to Necas lol

I'm guessing moving up from 28 discussions.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

The main obstacle will be Ullmark

If he forces the bruins to trade in-conference a 10th oa pick I imagine would appeal to them.

That's probably who Fitz messages was aimed at as well.

I think markstrom is option 2 or 3.

Messaging has basically been Markstrom is first choice for the Devils but they want him cheaper than the Flames will sell for as of yet.

If New Jersey thinks they have a goalie in Dawes then Markstrom is the perfect choice. I don't think he will cost the 10th overall though

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I'm guessing moving up from 28 discussions.

Wouldn't mind that depending on the cost

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Messaging has basically been Markstrom is first choice for the Devils but they want him cheaper than the Flames will sell for as of yet.

If New Jersey thinks they have a goalie in Dawes then Markstrom is the perfect choice. I don't think he will cost the 10th overall though

It sure feels like the media posturing is Flames-related since there's been so much of it already going back to the deadline.

I could see 28 and Markstrom for 10 and something. Maybe Casey.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

It definitely wouldn't be a straight across situation.

It would be 28th and JM (plus retention which is worth something like a 3rd) for 10th

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

The main obstacle will be Ullmark

If he forces the bruins to trade in-conference a 10th oa pick I imagine would appeal to them.

That's probably who Fitz messages was aimed at as well.

I think markstrom is option 2 or 3.

One would think that the extra year term on Markstrom and the fact that he has two playoff runs of .901 and .919 vs Ullmark’s one year term and playoff runs of .860, .896 and .886 on a pretty good defensive team would be factors in Markstrom’s favour. Hard to determine which goalie Jersey wants more although Brodeur apparently is a big Markstrom fan.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

One would think that the extra year term on Markstrom and the fact that he has two playoff runs of .901 and .919 vs Ullmark’s one year term and playoff runs of .860, .896 and .886 on a pretty good defensive team would be factors in Markstrom’s favour. Hard to determine which goalie Jersey wants more although Brodeur apparently is a big Markstrom fan.

It depends if they want to commit to a goalie for 6+ years or not. I can’t imagine they’d want a one year solution unless Ullmark came cheap which he probably goes out west if Boston wants to dump him.

[Bingo]

I think comparing statistics between goaltenders in different situations is almost pointless.

The Devils have Martin Brodeur and an internal ranking of where they value these guys, and probably with data we don't even see.

If Markstrom is #1 on Brodeur's list they're not going to look at Ullmark's stats and question themselves.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Bonded

It depends if they want to commit to a goalie for 6+ years or not. I can’t imagine they’d want a one year solution unless Ullmark came cheap which he probably goes out west if Boston wants to dump him.

If I was the GM of the Devils I would not be too worried about Markstrom's ability to be a 4 year solution. They would have two years to figure out if he is the solution and then they could probably sign him to short term, possibly one year contracts. It is a lower risk option than committing to a goalie for 6 years. But the following guys recently performed until they were 40 or oler.

Ryan Miller performed well until he was 40
Dwayne Roloson performed well until he was 41
Craig Anderson was pretty good until he was 41
Eddie Balfour was good until he was in his 40's

It would not be unheard of for Markstrom to be a quality starting goalie through 2028.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Bonded

It depends if they want to commit to a goalie for 6+ years or not. I can’t imagine they’d want a one year solution unless Ullmark came cheap which he probably goes out west if Boston wants to dump him.

Keep in mind that goalies mature late, Markstrom didn't become a legit number 1 until he was 30. He can probably still play at a high level right up to age 40. That gives you a five year window if you are NJ.

[ComixZone]

If the Flames somehow do knock the 10th OA loose and into their hands, I friggin' love the idea of adding two of Catton, Iginla, and Helenius into the fold. That'd be a heck of kick-off for Conroy.

[dammage79]

I wonder if the Flames do acquire 10th overall if that frees up 28th overall to move to get Necas.

Draft the D man that falls to you at 9th, draft the next best FW at 10th, snag Necas. That's a productive overhaul.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

If the Flames somehow do knock the 10th OA loose and into their hands, I friggin' love the idea of adding two of Catton, Iginla, and Helenius into the fold. That'd be a heck of kick-off for Conroy.

You wouldn't take Parekh or Buium with one of the picks?
One of them will probably be available. And I think it would be insane to take Helenius over these guys.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

If the Flames somehow do knock the 10th OA loose and into their hands, I friggin' love the idea of adding two of Catton, Iginla, and Helenius into the fold. That'd be a heck of kick-off for Conroy.

One of those would be a D, without question.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

If the Flames somehow do knock the 10th OA loose and into their hands, I friggin' love the idea of adding two of Catton, Iginla, and Helenius into the fold. That'd be a heck of kick-off for Conroy.

Grabbing two of these kids, with everything still pointing towards lottery-like finishes in the next two years and more high-end draft picks, all of the pieces come together really nicely for a rebuild on the faster side of things.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

You wouldn't take Parekh or Buium with one of the picks?
One of them will probably be available. And I think it would be insane to take Helenius over these guys.

You grab one of each position. Center and D man. Question is, Catton or Helenius? I'm a Helenius man myself.

At any rate, whichever direction they take, the Flames get some stellar talent at 9 and 10 if they get the 10