Minneapolis PD Suffocate Unarmed Black Man Who Later Dies in Hospital

[troutman]

A person is privileged to threaten or intentionally use force against another for the purpose of preventing or terminating what the person reasonably believes to be an unlawful interference with his or her person by such other person. The actor may intentionally use only such force or threat thereof as the actor reasonably believes is necessary to prevent or terminate the interference. The actor may not intentionally use force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm unless the actor reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself.

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...tes/939/III/48

[calgarybornnraised]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Aside from the absolutely horrific graphic content in the videos, this struck me as the most disturbing thing.

A Black man can "reportedly" reach into his van for a weapon and catch seven bullets in the back. A Black man can lightly resist arrest and be choked until he dies. A Black man can drive drunk and run away from the cops and be shot in the back.

A White man can kill two people and send one to the hospital, and walk by the police carrying the murder weapon in clear sight, completely untouched and free to go.

And what happens? A few White men come into the thread and talk about the criminal records of the Black men, about how they had it coming, about what they did wrong and twist and turn absolving the police officers, calling it an accident, or inevitable, or simply unfortunate. But a White killer? Silence, with a little touch of complaining about "the internet mob" or making sure we know he was allowed to carry that gun.

I know what I'd call that. But I wouldn't want to offend.

The hypocrisy is astounding to me.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by Looch City

The data is building up right in front of your eyes. Like literally yesterday with the guy that was shot in the back multiple times...

I mean something that isn't anecdotal evidence or where we are uncertain about the facts and outcome.

If it's so obvious, then surely it must be easy to supply data which supports your claim.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Open carry state.
https://www.grgblaw.com/wisconsin-tr...-gun-wisconsin

I see he is only 17 so he was breaking the “law”..

What so you are saying having a gun in your car is totally legal and the cops shouldnt shoot you just for having a gun? I'm astounded

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

I mean something that isn't anecdotal evidence or where we are uncertain about the facts and outcome.

If it's so obvious, then surely it must be easy to supply data which supports your claim.

Googled "history of black people killed by police"

First link: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...olice-killings

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

I mean something that isn't anecdotal evidence or where we are uncertain about the facts and outcome.

If it's so obvious, then surely it must be easy to supply data which supports your claim.

[puckedoff]

Saw tweets from what must have been Americans about how he shouldn't have been able to walk around with a gun, because he's only 17.

Meanwhile every other 1st world country wouldn't allow that at any age. Of course gun control is not the solution though.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Googled "history of black people killed by police"

First link: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...olice-killings

But your claim was that things are swept under the rug and that the deaths of black men weren't investigated. That website doesn't sound like it is doing any sweeping under the rug.

I assume you mean that the judicial system is sweeping things under rug.

I'm just looking for data to support the claim.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

But your claim was that things are swept under the rug and that the deaths of black men weren't investigated. That website doesn't sound like it is doing any sweeping under the rug.

I assume you mean that the judicial system is sweeping things under rug.

I'm just looking for data to support the claim.

Go try and find it yourself and if you can't find it, decide it's not true. Nobody gives a #### either way.

We're discussing someone who just murdered people and you're going on about the internet mob and trying to figure out how to use google. We all see you, dude. We get it.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

NSFL compilation of what happened.
https://files.catbox.moe/t64m9x.mp4

I would say the first shooting is questionable.
Buddy who got his biceps blown off had a pistol in his hand.

Just another night in a third world country.

It really is sad and scary watching the US implode.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Aside from the absolutely horrific graphic content in the videos, this struck me as the most disturbing thing.

A Black man can "reportedly" reach into his van for a weapon and catch seven bullets in the back. A Black man can lightly resist arrest and be choked until he dies. A Black man can drive drunk and run away from the cops and be shot in the back.

A White man can kill two people and send one to the hospital, and walk by the police carrying the murder weapon in clear sight, completely untouched and free to go.

And what happens? A few White men come into the thread and talk about the criminal records of the Black men, about how they had it coming, about what they did wrong and twist and turn absolving the police officers, calling it an accident, or inevitable, or simply unfortunate. But a White killer? Silence, with a little touch of complaining about "the internet mob" or making sure we know he was allowed to carry that gun.

I know what I'd call that. But I wouldn't want to offend.

Free to go....

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kyle-ri...sted-illinois/

Teen accused of fatal shooting during Kenosha protests arrested in Illinois

It's never a bad idea to collect all of the facts available before coming to a conclusion.

[troutman]

He was arrested in Illinois (today I think). Wisconsin police did not arrest last night.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

Free to go....

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kyle-ri...sted-illinois/

It's never a bad idea to collect all of the facts available before coming to a conclusion.

You can't be that thick, can you?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

You can't be that thick, can you?

He can and he is, he's a troll and has trolled every conversation he's involved in. I can safely assume anyone who saw the video knows exactly what I was referring to.

[dino7c]

so many WTF moments from the video though...17 year old kid who just shot someone is walking down the street with an assault rifle so you run up behind him, knock his hat off, and run.

If you are going to go to the trouble of tackling a guy with a gun don't half ass it

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

What so you are saying having a gun in your car is totally legal and the cops shouldnt shoot you just for having a gun? I'm astounded

That’s your take away? Omitting all context is just too easy. Should anyone be shot for simply having a gun and their car? Of course not!! Should anyone be allowed to parade up and down the streets with a loaded rifle? Of course not!!! Are their consequences when a wanted man disobeys orders, fights with officers, possesses a weapon, threatens officers with a gun (allegedly) and acts unpredictably? Of course there is!

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

That’s your take away? Omitting all context is just too easy. Should anyone be shot for simply having a gun and their car? Of course not!! Should anyone be allowed to parade up and down the streets with a loaded rifle? Of course not!!! Are their consequences when a wanted man disobeys orders, fights with officers, possesses a weapon, threatens officers with a gun (allegedly) and acts unpredictably? Of course there is!

Reminder: cops aren’t supposed to kill guilty people either.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Reminder: cops aren’t supposed to kill guilty people either.

Might want to also remind him that breaking the law by carrying a weapon down the street at 17 is not actually the worst thing the young man did.

I just noticed the 17 year old who had was shown on video having killed two people and wounding another was described as "parading up and down the streets with a loaded rifle" and the Black guy who was shown resisting and then reaching into his van was described as "a wanted man disobeys orders, fights with officers, possesses a weapon, threatens officers with a gun (allegedly) and acts unpredictably."

Probably just a coincidence though.

[Looch City]

From the NBA thread, players want to do more in show of support for BLM:

Milwaukee Bucks boycott game in wake of Wisconsin police shooting

Players had been discussing boycotting games in the bubble after the shooting of Jacob Blake, a Black man, by police in Kenosha, Wis., some 50 kilometres south of the Bucks' hometown. More discussions were expected Wednesday, but even before that the Bucks apparently decided they would act.

"We're tired of the killings and the injustice," Bucks guard George Hill told the website The Undefeated of the team's decision not to play.

Raptors coach says game boycott 'is on the table' as show of protest

"It just feels like we're stuck. It feels like things are not changing. It feels like we're not doing anything productive, basically. That's how it feels," said Raptors forward Pascal Siakam. "Those things hurt. I don't care where you're from … just seeing that and just knowing that every day it happens and it feels normal. Just seeing Black men being shot every day, that hurts, man."

[Acey]

NBA has postponed all the games tonight. Twitter is great.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1298716182862680066